is wal-mart unamerican?

[BigMoe]

my thoughts "YES" why?

if indeed they knowingly hired nonamricans to save a buck and lower there bottem line to run the true american mom&pop shops out of biz they should have to aton for there sins. when you think of an american store wal-mart is in the top5 but if what they have done is true thats pretty unamerican in my book. people or big corp. that that practis this should have it all taken away, thats the only thing they seam to understand is the almighty buck. big biz has screwed us for years in pursuit of a dollar with there thought most likely being "if it herts the little man or the or mess with nature who gives a dang i have mine and/or the next generation will have to dill with it, i need that extra house/car". if this idea of greed is good darn the rest of you idea does not change soon we as the people of the world not nations are in for a rocky ride. again this is my thought.

thank for letting me .:wine:

 

[glenn1]

Maybe you should visit WalMart and buy some extra punctuation marks to use in your posts. At least they'll be cheap.

And no, i don't think WalMart is un-American. If anything, WalMart is quintessentially American, although whether that's a good or bad thing others can debate.

 

[PrinceofWands]

I'd say it's Un-foundationalAmerican...In other words, it goes against the concept of America's formation, but is right in line with post 1930's Socio-business agenda - which is the defining concept of America in the last 80 years.

 

[Zebo]

Stopping terrorism is kinda of like squeezing mercury.

It gives you cancer?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BigMoe
my thoughts "YES" why?

if indeed they knowingly hired nonamricans to save a buck and lower there bottem line to run the true american mom&pop shops out of biz they should have to aton for there sins. when you think of an american store wal-mart is in the top5 but if what they have done is true thats pretty unamerican in my book. people or big corp. that that practis this should have it all taken away, thats the only thing they seam to understand is the almighty buck. big biz has screwed us for years in pursuit of a dollar with there thought most likely being "if it herts the little man or the or mess with nature who gives a dang i have mine and/or the next generation will have to dill with it, i need that extra house/car". if this idea of greed is good darn the rest of you idea does not change soon we as the people of the world not nations are in for a rocky ride. again this is my thought.

thank for letting me .:wine:

Umm, so Walmart is unAmerican because it gives the people what they want? Is it Walmart's greed...or the people's greed?
Walmart to me is a great American success story...up until a few years ago- now it's just a big successful business. They used to be proud to have American made things and advertise that - not true anymore. But...things are also cheaper now. I'm not sure that cheaper is good but why pay more when you can get it for less? Walmart was a concept that succeeded because it took the "general store" concept and merged it with the warehouse concept. A one stop buying spot for almost everything. Can't hardly fault them for that.

Now some of their business practices could be questioned but I hardly think you can call them "un-American".

CkG

 

[DealMonkey]

I guess it would depend how you defined "American" - at least in a business sense.

I have a long list of beefs with Wal-Mart (obviously), but I would point to one item that hasn't been discussed lately: Our massive trade deficit with China, which hit a new record of $11.7 billion in August '03. It's my sense that Wal-Mart sells products so cheaply because they carry so many products made in China. Does that make Wal-Mart unAmerican? I tend to think it does.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Take their clothes for example. They are rather cheap; you wouldn't catch me buying clothes from Wal-Mart, that's just my choice, I'm not implying they suck.

So I've heard...

Anyway, since the clothes are cheap they are probably from small, generic brand suppliers. What happens is Wal-Mart agrees to buy a certain amount from the supplier. At a certain point, Wal-Mart buys out all the supplier can produce, thus, becoming the sole buyer. Once Wal-mart is at that point (making the supplier 100% dependent), it only pays as much as it wants. The supplier must accept or go out of business.


Of course, contracts come into play. Even if everything is agreed upon from the start. If the supplier must produce more that expected, it still very sketchy.

...so I've heard.

 

[Miramonti]

Walmart is great for the consumer, complete crap for the worker. Only now, its evident they're crap for the illegal worker as well. Putting profits first is very american tho.

 

[Ferocious]

Actually things aren't really cheaper.....it's just more profit to be had.

Just like when a vehicle is built in mexico instead of the US....the price doesn't drop in half.

Anyways....no....Walmart is not unAmerican....but it is exploitive.

 

[sandorski]

Perhaps the question should be: "Is Walmart good for America?"

 

[smashp]

The problem with walmart and most all companies in the US today is that they are obsessed with their profit percentage and means to keep it in line. Now this is normal for business because with out profit why bother, but the problem exists when the company's begin damaging their long term lookout in favor of pleasing the street. Everything is done to pinch pennies for quarterly report. This is Shortsided. I guess they arent teaching long term business strategy anymore in college anymore.

 

[nowareman]

I posted this in the other WalMart thread. This is an interesting look at WalMart's dirty little secret behind their sparkling store image. IMO very Un-American unless you equate greed and illegal corporate activities as American.

Immigrants say they were Wal-Mart's secret

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Stopping terrorism is kinda of like squeezing mercury.

It gives you cancer?

Mercury doesn't cause cancer, it causes brain damage that leads to insanity (e.g., the Mad Hatter). In that light, the metaphor nicely describes the neo-facists (a.k.a. neo-cons) running the country at the moment.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Anyways....no....Walmart is not unAmerican....but it is exploitive.

in fact, that reassures me that Wal-Mart is as American as it gets.

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: BigMoe
my thoughts "YES" why?

if indeed they knowingly hired nonamricans to save a buck

A lot of people hire "nonAmericans" as nannies and maids. Are they also Non American?

 

[DealMonkey]

How about: Is Enron un-American? Is that an easier question to answer?

 

[BigMoe]

what wal- mart did for there books is as american as apple pie its there holyer than thow image of being a heartland hero and portraing an all american store that gets me. i for one am sick of seeing the big corps getting a slap on the hand for getting cought with there hand in the cookie jar where as is if it was john doe with limted funds they would loss every thing. if i were blind lady justicei guess i would not know if you have big money you are king and can do know wrong if you grease the wheels.

more :wine:

 

[gnumantsc]

Walmart is like other stores they want the big bucks. The more "unAmerican" you are the bigger the wallets you'll have. Look at Microsoft you see them being sued why? Becuase they are successful and make the billions. But look at Walmart how many of their items are made in the US >3%?

You can say oh I like designer clothes but how much of it is made in the US? Walmart is doing what other companies are doing looking for cheaper products and cheap labour. Although they claim the people were associates don't these people want to be american citizens? Why else are they willing to work for next to nothing to try and bring up their family?

Illegals are just people who are immigrants without proper citizenship and want to raise their family in a better environment than in their country.