Is vote weighting based on IQ a good thing?

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Dofuss3000

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Vote Weighting
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100-110 is a range and includes everyone in that range

I.Q. / / / % of Total Vote Value
0-99 / / / 1.23%
100-110 / / / 2.26%
111-120 / / / 4.06%
121-130 / / / 5.69%
131-140 / / / 7.54%
141-150 / / / 9.80%
151-160 / / / 10.87%
161-170 / / / 12.16%
171-180 / / / 13.85%
181-190 / / / 14.82%
191-200 / / / 17.71%
 
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pennylane

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Probably not. Because people with relatively low IQs may know a lot about politics, whereas someone with a relatively high IQ may not have a clue what's going on in the world.
 
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glen

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You just prevented half of the population from voting, really smart of you.
 
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Dofuss3000

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Originally posted by: glen
You just prevented half of the population from voting, really smart of you.
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the other half has less of a value then 100-110... a far less value...... so...

 
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BG4533

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Originally posted by: fanerman91
Probably not. Because people with relatively low IQs may know a lot about politics, whereas someone with a relatively high IQ may not have a clue what's going on in the world.
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glen

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Originally posted by: Dofuss3000
Originally posted by: glen
You just prevented half of the population from voting, really smart of you.
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the other half has less of a value then 100-110... a far less value...... so...
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100 is average.
So people from 85 to 100 are really pretty normal, you you won't let them vote.
 
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mee987

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my iq is in the upper half of your scale and i dont know sh-t about politics. horrible idea.
 
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Dofuss3000

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Vote Weighting
© Paul Cooijmans

To improve the efficiency of elections of any kind I recommend vote weighting by intelligence.

Behind this idea is the assumption that intelligence is a good indicator of one's judgment. Also, intelligence is of all human properties that might be relevant in this respect the one that is the most reliably and accurately testable.

In practice this could be done by including a brief IQ test in the voting procedure, which especially in computerized voting is no problem at all. The weight to be assigned to each vote would be determined by one's score. To add more weight to votes from higher scorers and compensate for their rarity, I advise this formula:

Weight = 100/(100 - %ile) - 1

Test norms could be based directly on the voting population. Norming and vote counting would take place in one go. Universal peace is around the corner.

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IQ100 = 100/(100-50)-1 which equals (1) so an IQ of 85 = 100/(100-17.43)-1 which equals (.21)
 
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isaacmacdonald

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there's no real reason to weight intellect. Unlike underpopulated states which really do require a little extra protection to insure they aren't trampled on my the more populous states, people with high iqs don't really have any valid reason to be afforded special consideration. As far as impact, I'm inclined to agree that extraoridnary cognitive skill has fairly little to do with knowledge about social needs.
 
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In some ways but a 200 IQ person probably has different goals than a 100 person IQ person so even though the 200 can make better overall decisions they are more weighted towards his/her goals and they are not the same goals as the 100 so then it's not fair. If on the other hand it was definite that everyone had the same goals I'd see nothing wrong with it.
 
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Dofuss3000

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
In some ways but a 200 IQ person probably has different goals than a 100 person IQ person so even though the 200 can make better overall decisions they are more weighted towards his/her goals and they are not the same goals as the 100 so then it's not fair. If on the other hand it was definite that everyone had the same goals I'd see nothing wrong with it.
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Ahhh, thanks for reminding me....

Intelligence Party
 
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I perfer a test before the vote. The test quizzes you on each politician's views on the issues. The better you score on the test the more your vote weighs. But of course everyone gets at least some weight even if you get all questions wrong. Like say a 100% test score gets you 5 votes and a 0% test score gets you 1 vote. Linearly fit in between.

For votes on issues not politicians, the test covers the potential effects of a yes/no vote.
 
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isaacmacdonald

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
In some ways but a 200 IQ person probably has different goals than a 100 person IQ person so even though the 200 can make better overall decisions they are more weighted towards his/her goals and they are not the same goals as the 100 so then it's not fair. If on the other hand it was definite that everyone had the same goals I'd see nothing wrong with it.
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I question the validaty of this assumption that 200 IQ person can make better overall decisions than 100 IQ person.
 
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Money is used for buying goods and labor, saving and as a unit for calculation. Interest, dividend, insurance and other ways of "making money with money" are abolished. Money itself cannot be a subject of trade. This means one cannot possess more money than one has earned or inherited during one's life. Inflation is zero. Each individual has a basic income throughout life, and by contributing to society one earns additional money.
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This is stupid.
 
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LordMorpheus

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IQ is meaningless. You can think faster, is all, not better. Some of the 'high IQ' types I've met have been the biggest fvcktards the world has ever seen, while some people I wouldn't have classified as 'high IQ' people (like my fellow employees, I'm working full time in a machine shop this summer) have a much greater grasp of things than anyone at my school (which is supposed to be the 'smart' kid school . . and it is, truthfully, but that doesn't mean the kids there aren't morons outside of books.)


Vote weighting is a bad move. I mean, sure, some really really dumb people might make bad desicions, but I bet the smart people make just as many.
 
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Kyteland

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I always likes R. Heinleins concept of voting in Starship Troopers. You had to earn your right to vote through civic duty in the military.

Ie, you aren't granted the right to vote by birth, you must earn it by proving that you are capable of handling the responsibility.

IQ is not a good indicator of how responsilbe of a person you are. I don't know if military service is either, but Heinleins fictional military is nothing like ours today, so...
 
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Electric Amish

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Well, I don't vote, but that really doesn't make sense.

I have an IQ around 130-150 (depending on the test) and I don't know dick about politics. I don't want to know and I don't care.

amish
 
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DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
I always likes R. Heinleins concept of voting in Starship Troopers. You had to earn your right to vote through civic duty in the military.

Ie, you aren't granted the right to vote by birth, you must earn it by proving that you are capable of handling the responsibility.

IQ is not a good indicator of how responsilbe of a person you are. I don't know if military service is either, but Heinleins fictional military is nothing like ours today, so...
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Or a test to pass like for a driver's license, unfortunately voting tests were horribly abused in the past to keep minorities from voting (with a test designed to be unpassable, and with it only given to minorities not also to whites).

Also, IQ numbers differ from one standardized test to the next, so you need to use percentile ranks. See mensa.org for a good explanation. mensa.org info page
 
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