Originally posted by: Pugnate
I think this is why the PC games industry is having problems. PC gamers on the net seem to be the bitchiest of them all, and seem to just hate everything. I mean alright, the game may not be to your taste, but if you can't recognize that UT3 is a good game just because you don't like the changes, really makes me sorry for the state of PC gaming fans. It is one thing to say that "I didn't like it as much because of the changes", and is another to say "fans hate the game" or "I am disgusted by this game".
This is the problem with PC gamers. We are the most unreasonable, extreme, and bitchiest gamers on the net.
It isn't just this.
Great games like F.E.A.R., Crysis, Supreme Commander and Bioshock have loads of PC fans screaming "hate".
That's just stupid and makes me feel sorry for the state of the PC gaming community. Sure all those games have their own respective downsides, but to hate those games purely because of a few changes you didn't like, makes you a retard.
*sigh*
Anyway UT3 is an extremely solid title, that you will rate between the mid 80s and low 90s depending on how you like the changes. The point is that your opinion of it should range from good to excellent, and if someone tells you otherwise, they are an idiot.
I respectfully disagree.
Everyone has the right to dislike a game due to the changes made compared to the original product(s)/franchise(s). It does not make them idiots. Most of the gamers who can't stand too much change over the years are the nostalgic ones. They spent many months/years playing those games and they eventually standardized its features/limits. They have the right to judge a game,
especially if they legitimately bought it (if they didn't that's another story, if they didn't they can still objectively observe the downsides, but their complaints and opinions have no value whatsoever, and certainly no reach to the developers themselves).
I'll take UT2004/UT3 and myself as an example since it's the main subject.
As I said, I love UT2004's Invasion mode. It's the whole collaboration principle that drives me back to that game-play mode more than any others available for the game. It's the team work needed to overcome the invading monsters, and the fact that, for once, it's not focused on humans-against-humans battles like in so many other FPS'es around. But that's my two cents on that mode, I just love it, others hate it, but do I give a damn ? No of course I don't. I do know that there's that server where I keep playing (Monster Madness to name it) where it's always full during day time, and where so much action goes on that the server can often barely maintain a good connection for everyone.
The community on that server is awesome, and most of the players are regulars, some are veterans, playing there since day one. We have nice discussions between us, we laugh, we have fun as a community. I really like it.
Now, UT3 gets announced, nice !
Then I tell myself "oh my, those graphics, I can't imagine how cool Invasion will be !"
I read a few reviews, I notice there's no Invasion, then I tell myself "dammit, that sucks bad, but let's try the Demo, at least". Which I did, and I liked it enough to buy the game anyway because I know that, eventually, Invasion will be modded in by the community, it's just a question of time. But then ... WHY would I *have to* wait ? I still have UT2004 meanwhile. Do I *have to* move on to UT3 and leave all my friends behind in the dust over at Monster Madness ? Hummm, no ? No thanks indeed. I'm gonna stay with 'em, have fun with 'em, and when they decide to move on to UT3 as a community then I will follow, that's for sure.
What you need to understand is that for a game like UT, what matters isn't exactly the "new features", nor the graphics. What matters most is the community, well at least I see it that way. If no one cares about the community then what's the goal to even buy such a game ? To always play it off-line ? Well, why not, there are bots, that's cool, but I know I prefer to play with friendly humans (notice "friendly", that's the key word).
UT3 is new, it made changes, but it did NOT bring "my community" over with it. Nope, it stayed behind with UT2004 still, and I'm fine with that. I don't just want to play a game on-line because it has "great features" and because it "changes things". I want to play on-line because I know in advance that I'm going to have fun with the players I play with, either because I know them already or because that community (that "server") is already known to be friendly towards newbies, which we all know is almost never the case in on-line gaming, and it doesn't just apply to FPS'es.
I'm fine with UT2004, and I prefer the actual Invasion game-play over anything that UT3 has to offer, which means that I do not necessarily like the changes, which in turns just means that, and nothing else. Why would YOU even care about what I think of UT3 anyways ? Because you think that people who have reasons, either good or not to your eyes and ears make them idiots because YOU like the changes and move over to the new game and they didn't ? That's nonsense to its purest form.
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