Is Trump about to be indicted in NY?

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JEDI

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Judge rejects Trump's attempt to block NY attorney general from accessing his trust records:

A federal judge in Florida on Wednesday denied former President Donald Trump's request to block the New York attorney general's office from seeking materials from his private trust.

New York Attorney General Letitia James' office subpoenaed records relating to the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, which Trump used to hold his companies when he became president in 2017.


Looks like New York Attorney General Letitia James isnt done looking at Trump corporate
 

pauldun170

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At first glance, the income-tax data released this week by a House committee seems to show a turnaround in 2018 for former President Donald J. Trump. After a decade in which he declared no taxable income, his 2018 return reported taxable income of more than $24 million. He paid nearly a million dollars in federal income taxes.
In fact, his year in the black appears to have resulted largely from the final windfall of the vast inheritance that financed much of his business career — more than $14 million in gains from the sale of his father’s 1970s investment in the Brooklyn housing development of Starrett City.
But precedent soon reasserted itself. Because of business losses, he paid no income taxes in 2020, his last year in the White House.
That year, after obtaining more than two decades of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, The New York Times traced the boom-and-bust arcs that had marked his financial history: dubious tax avoidance, huge losses and a life buttressed by an inherited fortune. The newly released tax information, from 2015 to 2020, shows how that pattern extended through his years in Washington.
 

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eelw

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Damn Weisselberg to serve 5 months at Rikers Island. Guess he wish he did throw the orange monkey fully under the bus
 

Pens1566

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Rickers ain't no picknick. Better watch his cell.

Agree. I think he either declines in health rapidly or something happens to him.

But I do think it's funny that in the one instance (so far) where they've had a rat and it was all "this is really gonna be the one that gets him!!!!" and the rat gives up almost nothing of value that implicates anyone else (no, Trump Org doesn't count) and gets off with basically the lightest sentence possible.
 

hal2kilo

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Agree. I think he either declines in health rapidly or something happens to him.

But I do think it's funny that in the one instance (so far) where they've had a rat and it was all "this is really gonna be the one that gets him!!!!" and the rat gives up almost nothing of value that implicates anyone else (no, Trump Org doesn't count) and gets off with basically the lightest sentence possible.
Seems to be what happens when you work for a Svengali criminal psychopath.
 
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hal2kilo

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Pens1566

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The beginning of the end of Trump Org.

Trump Org fined just $1.6M for tax crimes — but experts say "it spells doom" for the company | Salon.com

Legal experts predicted the fallout from Friday's sentencing is likely to go beyond the fine.

Former U.S. attorney and UCLA Law professor Harry Litman wrote that the "collateral financial and practical consequences could be far greater," than the relatively small financial penalty.

A large part of that is based on a notional criminal prosecution. OK, we're waiting ...

As for the funding issues, they'll look overseas and/or go through a corp re-org and move on.
 

SMOGZINN

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The beginning of the end of Trump Org.

Trump Org fined just $1.6M for tax crimes — but experts say "it spells doom" for the company | Salon.com

Legal experts predicted the fallout from Friday's sentencing is likely to go beyond the fine.

Former U.S. attorney and UCLA Law professor Harry Litman wrote that the "collateral financial and practical consequences could be far greater," than the relatively small financial penalty.
They are fooling themselves. Everyone, and I mean everyone, that does business with Trump already knows that they are dealing with a criminal enterprise. They literally got fined for less than they saved with this scheme. Everyone should commit tax fraud in NY.
 

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They are fooling themselves. Everyone, and I mean everyone, that does business with Trump already knows that they are dealing with a criminal enterprise. They literally got fined for less than they saved with this scheme. Everyone should commit tax fraud in NY.
Jesus, that's kind of like telling people the Supreme Court is biased.
 

Pohemi

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Yeah tbh that fine seems like a joke considering the scope of the crimes and of the investigation. It's peanuts, and they should have done better penalty-wise.
 
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Yeah tbh that fine seems like a joke considering the scope of the crimes and of the investigation. It's peanuts, and they should have done better penalty-wise.
My guess is that then penalties are statutory.
 

dawp

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didn't he say a while back that only the guilty plead the fifth?

Trump did so more than 400 times during the course of the full interview, according to a New York attorney general court filing. After the deposition concluded, Trump issued a public statement saying that he had exercised his Fifth Amendment right and refused to answer.
 
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SMOGZINN

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didn't he say a while back that only the guilty plead the fifth?
The fun part of all this is that, because this is a civil case, to the jury it is allowed to be seen as an admission of guilt.
 
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The fun part of all this is that, because this is a civil case, to the jury it is allowed to be seen as an admission of guilt.
Sure Weisselburg’s testimony was the deciding factor, the orange monkeys lack of a defense had to have influenced the jury.
 
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blackangst1

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White collar crime is hard to prosecute—especially when the “victim” of the crime is the government or taxpayers more generally.
I get it. But it seems almost every day theres more and more evidence against Trump. How much do they need?

indictments have been right around the corner for 9 months-

Trump Prosecutors See Evidence for Bringing Obstruction Charges - Bloomberg
January 6 panel’s body of work boosts DoJ case against Trump, experts say | US Capitol attack | The Guardian
For experts, the evidence in two probes compels charging Trump | The Hill
DOJ lays out strongest obstruction evidence against Trump yet (usatoday.com)

ad nauseum
 

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How can you announce to the world how tolerant and liberal you are if you don't let criminals walk all over you?
 
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