Is this what a functioning government looks like?

bbhaag

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It's a great list indeed but she forgot to mention the cost of all these achievements. I know members here don't like to think about the bottom line but it is a reality and one worth asking about.
 

alien42

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It's a great list indeed but she forgot to mention the cost of all these achievements. I know members here don't like to think about the bottom line but it is a reality and one worth asking about.

lol, seriously?

without even looking it up, i'd be willing to bet that she hasn't run up anywhere near the deficit that Trump has. also, do you realize that NZ currently has ZERO covid-19 cases? would you like to calculate the cost of actual lives into your equation? might as well include all those Kiwis that won't lose their lives to assault weapons since she had those banned.

reality is that NZ is currently making the US look pathetic, no matter how your calculator leans.
 

nickqt

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It's a great list indeed but she forgot to mention the cost of all these achievements. I know members here don't like to think about the bottom line but it is a reality and one worth asking about.
That's a couple of sentences that say absolutely nothing and imply anything and everything. I know you don't like to think about the meaningless empty rhetoric you like to toss out in your BothSidesDoIt™ whataboutism but it is a reality that your comment is absolutely meaningless.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Yeah but she is a woman with all the feel good stuff like trees, housing, healthcare and environment. We can't have that type of BS here. This is 'Merica!

In the early days of COVID, if we can say that, there was an article that pointed out that one common trait among countries with the best outcomes was that they had (have) female leaders.
 
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The real problem is some of us look at this and say “wow great job” and others look at it and say “dumb broad”. Pretty hard to bridge that gap.
 

bbhaag

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lol, seriously?

without even looking it up, i'd be willing to bet that she hasn't run up anywhere near the deficit that Trump has. also, do you realize that NZ currently has ZERO covid-19 cases? would you like to calculate the cost of actual lives into your equation? might as well include all those Kiwis that won't lose their lives to assault weapons since she had those banned.

reality is that NZ is currently making the US look pathetic, no matter how your calculator leans.
Don't let your feels get in the way. The immigration policy of NZ is what has protected them from Covid.
Don't even try and compare the NZ deficit to the US. The population factor alone should tell you that the calculator leans only toward the truth.
That's a couple of sentences that say absolutely nothing and imply anything and everything. I know you don't like to think about the meaningless empty rhetoric you like to toss out in your BothSidesDoIt™ whataboutism but it is a reality that your comment is absolutely meaningless.
Oh look you didn't like what I said so you decided to label me....color me surprised.:rolleyes:
 

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Anyone see trump video taking this same challenge .he said judges and tax cuts for the rich. For some reason he then yelled fake news which extended his time to 3 seconds. MAGA!!!!!
 
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Don't let your feels get in the way. The immigration policy of NZ is what has protected them from Covid.
Don't even try and compare the NZ deficit to the US. The population factor alone should tell you that the calculator leans only toward the truth.

Oh look you didn't like what I said so you decided to label me....color me surprised.:rolleyes:

we can do a ratio of GDP vs Deficit
Admittedly quick googling
NZ deficit appears to be trending down (pre Covid I think)
Deficit is 3% of GDP

US deficit is 4.6% of GDP and growing.

I’ll accept the point on immigration but even early on most were okay with immigration restrictions based upon a pending pandemic. We just don’t like immigration bans because someone hurt the Presidents feelz.
 

alien42

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Don't let your feels get in the way. The immigration policy of NZ is what has protected them from Covid.
Don't even try and compare the NZ deficit to the US. The population factor alone should tell you that the calculator leans only toward the truth.

it has nothing to do with feels, unlike your original post. it isn't just their immigration policy, NZ locked down nationally, something the US never did. why not compare the two deficits? the population factor, wtf are you even talking about?

the US has already lost 348 per million while NZ stands at 4 per million.

how dare you speak of the "truth" when your posts contain nothing resembling it.
 

zzyzxroad

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Don't let your feels get in the way. The immigration policy of NZ is what has protected them from Covid.
Don't even try and compare the NZ deficit to the US. The population factor alone should tell you that the calculator leans only toward the truth.

Oh look you didn't like what I said so you decided to label me....color me surprised.:rolleyes:
Does NZ have a higher natinal debt to GDP ratio than the US?
 

JEDIYoda

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It's a great list indeed but she forgot to mention the cost of all these achievements. I know members here don't like to think about the bottom line but it is a reality and one worth asking about.
what a crappy statement! Only a Republican would say somethinmg like that in order to derail stuff!
Look it the deficit Trumptard has........hahahhahaahha its growing like popcorn with no end in sight! He may hire the best people but he doesn`t let them do their jobs!
Even taking into account the currency conversion NZ has a approx a 10 billion dollar deficit!
 

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it has nothing to do with feels, unlike your original post. it isn't just their immigration policy, NZ locked down nationally, something the US never did. why not compare the two deficits? the population factor, wtf are you even talking about?

the US has already lost 348 per million while NZ stands at 4 per million.

how dare you speak of the "truth" when your posts contain nothing resembling it.
How many people travel to NZ per year? Care to post some links to those numbers you just boasted? I'd be interested in reading more about them. I'd really like to read more about their GDP versus their population and how it compares to the US.
what a crappy statement! Only a Republican would say somethinmg like that in order to derail stuff!
Look it the deficit Trumptard has........hahahhahaahha its growing like popcorn with no end in sight! He may hire the best people but he doesn`t let them do their jobs!
Even taking into account the currency conversion NZ has a approx a 10 billion dollar deficit!
Oh look more feels posting and more labeling...this place is so predictable.
 

JEDIYoda

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How many people travel to NZ per year? Care to post some links to those numbers you just boasted? I'd be interested in reading more about them. I'd really like to read more about their GDP versus their population and how it compares to the US.

Oh look more feels posting and more labeling...this place is so predictable.
The truth and real facts hurt people like you! You make claims that are unsubstantiated....typical
 

Indus

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How many people travel to NZ per year? Care to post some links to those numbers you just boasted? I'd be interested in reading more about them. I'd really like to read more about their GDP versus their population and how it compares to the US.

Oh look more feels posting and more labeling...this place is so predictable.

Hey citizen of a shithole country..
NZ just made your country look like a shithole country.
 
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bbhaag

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The truth and real facts hurt people like you! You make claims that are unsubstantiated....typical
All I did was pose a question and to no ones surprise I got hammered for asking it. All I did was ask questions.
 

alien42

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Care to post some links to those numbers you just boasted? I'd be interested in reading more about them.

stating facts isn't boasting.