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slinetz

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I copy and paste this from another thread
i wonder if this is true.

Take the War on Iraq IQ Test:
1. Q: What percentage of the world's population does the U.S. have?
A: 6%
2. Q: What percentage of the world's wealth does the U.S. have?
A: 50%
3. Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves?
A: Saudi Arabia
4. Q: Which country has the second largest oil reserves?
A: Iraq
5. Q: How much is spent on military budgets a year worldwide?
A: $900+ billion
6. Q: How much of this is spent by the U.S.?
A:50%
7. Q: What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials of life to everyone in the world, according the the UN?
A: 10% (that's about $40 billion, the amount of funding initially requested to fund our retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).
8. Q: How many people have died in wars since World War II?
A: 86 million
9. Q: How long has Iraq had chemical and biological weapons?
A: Since the early 1980's.
10. Q: Did Iraq develop these chemical and biological weapons on their own?
A: No, the materials and technology were supplied by the US government, along with Britain and private corporations.
11. Q: Did the US government condemn the Iraqi use of gas warfare against Iran?
A: No
12. Q: How many people did Saddam Hussein kill using gas in the Kurdish town of Halabja in 1988?
A: 5,000
13. Q: How many western countries condemned this action at the time? A:0
14. Q: How many gallons of Agent Orange did America use in Vietnam? A: 17 million.
15. Q: Are there any proven links between Iraq and September 11th terrorist attack?
A: No
16. Q: What is the estimated number of civilian casualties in the Gulf War?
A: 35,000
17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western forces during the Gulf War ?
A: 0
18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by U.S. tanks with ploughs mounted on the front?
A: 6,000
19. Q: How many tons of depleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait after the Gulf War?
A: 40 tons
20. Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in Iraq between 1991 and 1994?
A: 700%
21. Q: How much of Iraq's military capacity did America claim it had destroyed in 1991?
A: 80%
22. Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for anything other than deterrence and self defense?
A: No
23. Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10 years ago?
A: No
24. Q: How many civilian deaths has the Pentagon predicted in the event of an attack on Iraq in 2002/3?
A: 10,000
25. Q: What percentage of these will be children?
A: Over 50%
26. Q: How many years has the U.S. engaged in air strikes on Iraq?
A: 11 years
27. Q: Was the U.S and the UK at war with Iraq between December 1998 and September 1999?
A: No
28. Q: How many pounds of explosives were dropped on Iraq between December 1998 and September 1999?
A: 20 million
29. Q: How many years ago was UN Resolution 661 introduced, imposing strict sanctions on Iraq's imports and exports?
A: 12 years
30. Q: What was the child death rate in Iraq in 1989 (per 1,000 births)? A: 38
31. Q: What was the estimated child death rate in Iraq in 1999 (per 1,000 births)?
A: 131 (that's an increase of 345%)
32. Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a result of UN sanctions?
A: 1.5 million
33. Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to sanctions since 1997?
A: 750,000
34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?
A:No
35. Q: How many inspections were there in November and December 1998?
A:300
36. Q: How many of these inspections had problems?
A:5
37. Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Ba'ath Party HQ?
A: Yes
38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to a level unprecedented in modern history.
A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief.
39. Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq's post 1991 capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have discovered and dismantled?
A: 90%
40. Q: Is Iraq willing to allow the weapons inspectors back in?
A:Yes
41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?
A: Over 65
42. Q: How many UN resolutions on Israel did America veto between 1972 and 1990?
A: 30+
43. Q: How much does the U.S. fund Israel a year?
A: $5 billion
44. Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?
A: 8
45. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Iraq have?
A: 0
46. Q: How many nuclear warheads does US have?
A: over 10,000
47. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?
A: the US
48. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?
A: Over 400
49. Q: Has Israel ever allowed UN weapons inspections?
A: No
50. Q: What percentage of the Palestinian territories are controlled by Israeli settlements?
A: 42%
51. Q: Is Israel illegally occupying Palestinian land?
A: Yes
52. Q: Which country do you think poses the greatest threat to global peace: Iraq or the U.S.?
A: ?
53. Q: Who said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter"?
A: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr
 

Pers

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yeah..it is.. :)


but when you have wolfowitz and perle calling the shots....Israel will never face a hostile america

but believe what you want..i honestly don't care what a bunch of hopeless cretins think

This war has proved to me that a false democracy is as bad as NO democracy at all

here we boast of our democracy, when we have an unelected president calling ALL the shots (ie. taking power

away from congress -- is this sh!t legal -- would the founding fathers approve?) YEt...so much propaganda is

spewed over tv, news papers, magazine....the average 17 year old genuinely believes they know_war_is_the_iminent_solution

anyway... land of the free [grazing sheep....]

take if for what you will...but you people certainly prove that american democracy has no merit
 

Pers

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yeah no one will respond to this one...

it may shed some doubt in their "certainty and trust in Bush"

anyway...any man that says "fvck saddam, we're taking him out" on national

television....has proven he's too immature to be a president anyway...


maybe he should just stick to playing with his doggy? drinking loads of alcohol

and making sure his daughters don't get pregnant?

Edit: did i say pregnant? i meant raped: sh!T happens when you get drunk and high...

i'm glad bush was able to instill the same morals on his children as many of you preach
he upholds today.
 

Marshallj

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***BREAKING NEWS***


This just in- Gore lost the election.


We now return to your regularly scheduled program.
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: Format C:
You idiots make even the Iraqi Information Minister look intelligent.
Originally posted by: Format C:
*IDIOT ALERT*
you've had nearly two identical posts calling me an idiot....

i would think since you're the one calling me names -- you'd emphasize your

own intelligence before attacking mine.

 

tcsenter

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People tend not to respond to ignorance.

Well I take that back, people tend not to respond to breath-taking ignorance which is so voluminous it would take a month to address.

I'm sure the author was thinking nobody would take the time or effort to dispell that baffling amount of bullsh-t. He's right.

Do you know how much time and effort it would take to do all the research to track down all the correct information with sources in order to dispell all the bullsh-t there? Jesus it would take a hours.

This is what Twain meant by "Lies can travel half-way around the world before the truth gets up in the morning."
 

Morph

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The vast majority of the info in that post is fact. For you to say it's all bullshit tells me that you either did not read it, or you're just ignorant. So go ahead and tell us which points in the post you dispute. I'm waiting.
 

slinetz

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i really hope you can prove me wrong because i really hope i am wrong. If you can't do that , at least argue something valid and related to the topic. saying something such as ignorant won't help anything you know?
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
People tend not to respond to ignorance.

Well I take that back, people tend not to respond to breath-taking ignorance which is so voluminous it would take a month to address.

I'm sure the author was thinking nobody would take the time or effort to dispell that baffling amount of bullsh-t. He's right.

Do you know how much time and effort it would take to do all the research to track down all the correct information with sources in order to dispell all the bullsh-t there? Jesus it would take a hours.

This is what Twain meant by "Lies can travel half-way around the world before the truth gets up in the morning."
people tend to be nationalistic morons as well, willing to rebuff all that is rational in order to secure their sense of importance in this world

yes...i'd like to thank you [overly paranoid - the least of things ~ brave] Americans for helping us out in Iraq. I'm sure people i know and love will

have a better time once Saddam is gone -- afterall, they most likely wont have to share this planet with - us - the ignorant
 

tcsenter

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The vast majority of the info in that post is fact. For you to say it's all bullshit tells me that you either did not read it, or you're just ignorant. So go ahead and tell us which points in the post you dispute. I'm waiting.
You first, you provide sources for every single piece of information, all 53 'question and answers', so that we can verify the information instead of rightly dismissing it precisely because it cites no sources whatsover. The burden is on you to prove the information is correct, not on anyone to prove the information is incorrect, since you're the one making the claim it is correct.

I'm waiting...
 

burnedout

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7. Q: What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials of life to everyone in the world, according the the UN?
A: 10% (that's about $40 billion, the amount of funding initially requested to fund our retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).
For how long??? Two days?

17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western forces during the Gulf War ?
A: 0
WTF is this? Revisionist history? Utter BS. Look at readily available casualty figures for the last Gulf War.

18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by U.S. tanks with ploughs mounted on the front?
A: 6,000
Further evidence of revisionist history. Umm, HTF are Iraqi soldiers, stationary in bunker positions, firing at advancing forces considered as "retreating"? No one, and I mean NO ONE, knows the number who were "buried" after the advance across the berm was initiated. This particular tactic was devised by officers in 1ID, BTW.

34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?
A:No
No. They left the first time because of harrassment and refusals doled out by Saddam's band of merry men.
 

tcsenter

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i really hope you can prove me wrong because i really hope i am wrong. If you can't do that , at least argue something valid and related to the topic. saying something such as ignorant won't help anything you know?
Hey, here's a novel idea...

Why don't you get your lazy ass out there and look up the information yourself. Shouldn't take you more than several hours, the internet is a really powerful tool.

Why in the hell should we take our valuable time to do what you are perfectly capable of doing but are too lazy to?

After you're done, and you have all the sources of your information, please let us know what you've found.
 

Mookow

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A brief once over for the first 20, since I'm not going to spend too much time dicking with this, but:

#6: Unless my basic math was killed by taking calculus, 900+B/2=450+B, but the current US defense budget is within range of $380 billion.. false

#8: In what wars? And I dont think the Cold War counts, so you can't use Stalin's kill total, nor Mao's when he decided to switch China from farming to industry and forgot that, hey, people dont get nutrition from propaganda, they actually need food. I'm calling shenanigans until you can account for at least 80% or this through war casualty totals (ie adding up Korea, Vietnam, all the short wars Israel was in, etc). Hey, we could start comparing war vs fascism death tolls and see which one has been worse since WWII. But I dont think you want to do that, since Stalin and Mao alone give me one hell of a head start

#14: Yes, because Agent Orange is so much worse than VX

#16: Sure, if you talk to the fringe left, maybe. That, or you added an extra zero false

#17: Hey, good job forgetting about the 148 US servicemen and women who gave their lives. false

#18: We collapsed some trenchs onto Iraqi soldiers, true. But, its not like they were running, they were at their firing positions in the trenches. If they wanted to surrender, they shouldnt have been firing at the tank until it was 20 feet away, then raised their hands, because you just cant stop a 70 ton tank on a dime. The physics of burying a running man in the open desert the way it is described dont work. You wouldnt bury him, you'd just run him over and spread the remains around a bit. [b[prove it[/b]

#19: I've heard higher numbers, actually. pointless, as you will see below

#20: So, burning oil wells on a scope never seen before would have nothing to do with this. After all, Saddam released a report saying it was all DU related, and we should believe him, even though when WHO offered to come to Iraq and verify, he adamantly refused. I think I'll just use the same links for this that I used in the last DU debate I was in.
link #1
link #2
link #3
Link #4.
In summation, pointless
 

tcsenter

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#14: Yes, because Agent Orange is so much worse than VX
Huh? Maybe this was sarcasm.

Agent Orange was used as a defoliant in the jungle, to kill leaves, not people.

VX gas has but one purpose - to kill people - and its extremely good at it. VX gas is far better at killing people than Agent Orange was good at defoliation or killing people. Hell, maybe VX is even a better defoliant.

Lots of people were exposed to lots of Agent Orange and lived for years. The same can't be said for VX.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
#14: Yes, because Agent Orange is so much worse than VX
Huh? Maybe this was sarcasm.

Agent Orange was used as a defoliant in the jungle, to kill leaves, not people.

VX gas has but one purpose - to kill people - and its extremely good at it. VX gas is far better at killing people than Agent Orange was good at defoliation or killing people. Hell, maybe VX is even a better defoliant.

Lots of people were exposed to lots of Agent Orange and lived for years. The same can't be said for VX.
Time to RMA that old sarcasm detector, tcsenter. Hell, I know a couple of vets that got sprayed with the stuff, and they are still around and kicking
 

tcsenter

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Time to RMA that old sarcasm detector, tcsenter. Hell, I know a couple of vets that got sprayed with the stuff, and they are still around and kicking
I'm looking into a refurbished model. ;)
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Time to RMA that old sarcasm detector, tcsenter. Hell, I know a couple of vets that got sprayed with the stuff, and they are still around and kicking
I'm looking into a refurbished model. ;)
Quit acting like RossMan looking for a refurb and rebates and just buy the thing. You know you'll need it if you are browsing AT
 

MadRat

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Originally posted by: Morph
The vast majority of the info in that post is fact. For you to say it's all bullshit tells me that you either did not read it, or you're just ignorant. So go ahead and tell us which points in the post you dispute. I'm waiting.
I would dispute almost every single one. Just to begin with it:

1. Its not 6%, but rather just 4.9418663551314116391824769326033%. Source = esa.un.org

This is obvious liberal bullsh!t.

 

Alistar7

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Ill take the US and Britian being the main suppliers of WMD...


The 12,000-page weapons declaration that Iraq delivered to the United Nations in December identifies 31 major foreign suppliers for its chemical weapons program, including 2 companies based in the United States that are now defunct, 14 from Germany, 3 each from the Netherlands and Switzerland and 2 each from France and Austria.

seems GERMANY is very prominent in this...

But I guess the author of this thread, Morph, and Pers know better than SADDAM himself.....



 

conjur

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26. Q: How many years has the U.S. engaged in air strikes on Iraq?
A: 11 years


Q: How many years has Saddam evaded and violated UN resolutions and the 1991 Cease Fire?
A: 12 years

Q: How many UN Resolutions has Saddam broken?
A: 17
 

whalen

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38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to a level unprecedented in modern history.
A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief

...because i really care what a child porn freak said.
 

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