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Is this true about Vista?

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michaels

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On another board I post at, a guy is claiming memory sticks can be used as ram. Here is the exact quote..
in vista which i think is cool is that you can use stick drives as ram!!! that means you dont have to up grade a mother board u can have like 1 gig off a stick drive
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You can (and do) currently use your hard drive as RAM via virtual memory. I thought the big killer for using stick drives for anything but storage is their finite number of writes
 
Originally posted by: michaels
On another board I post at, a guy is claiming memory sticks can be used as ram. Here is the exact quote..
in vista which i think is cool is that you can use stick drives as ram!!! that means you dont have to up grade a mother board u can have like 1 gig off a stick drive
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Ask him how he plans to use Vista without a Shift key.

Link to board in question so we can have a midday forum invasion, please. 😛

- M4H
 
wait wait wait wait...

isnt a flash mem slow as sh1t compared to HDD... Then why not use HDD as ram...

Sounds incredibely stupid to me
 
Originally posted by: andy04
wait wait wait wait...

isnt a flash mem slow as sh1t compared to HDD... Then why not use HDD as ram...

Sounds incredibely stupid to me
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400gig of ram... :Q
 
i have been playing with vista this morning, i put my usb drive in to run some scripts and noticed it has something called "ReadyBoost"

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2017844,00.asp

i just started reading about it, i think the idea is to put your virtual memory on the flash memory instead of the hard drive, in theory, many flash drives are faster than hard drives, so it would "boost" your system

i guess
 
Originally posted by: andy04
isnt a flash mem slow as sh1t compared to HDD... Then why not use HDD as ram...
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Yes it is... and yes its stupid. A seperate 20GB HDD off of eBay for use as extra paging/memory would be faster and cheaper than a 2GB usb flash memory.
 
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: andy04
isnt a flash mem slow as sh1t compared to HDD... Then why not use HDD as ram...
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Yes it is... and yes its stupid. A seperate 20GB HDD off of eBay for use as extra paging/memory would be faster and cheaper than a 2GB usb flash memory.
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But that makes too much sense. USB FTW!!!
 
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: andy04
isnt a flash mem slow as sh1t compared to HDD... Then why not use HDD as ram...
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Yes it is... and yes its stupid. A seperate 20GB HDD off of eBay for use as extra paging/memory would be faster and cheaper than a 2GB usb flash memory.
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Go read some of the articles.

Yes, HD's kick the crap out of flash for sequential transfers but it doesn't take much for flash to beat a HD in RANDOM performance.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: michaels
Where do I go to change virtual memory on my pc?
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if you don't know, you shouldn't mess with it

windows sets it up for you, you don't need to change it
 
Ok, anyways... it doesnt make sence at all bcoz RAMs have effective speed of 1.5 - 2 GBps and a HDD or Flash cannot even come anywhere near it... so it defeats the purpose of RAM.
 
Originally posted by: andy04
Ok, anyways... it doesnt make sence at all bcoz RAMs have effective speed of 1.5 - 2 GBps and a HDD or Flash cannot even come anywhere near it... so it defeats the purpose of RAM.
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Dude...just...argh....forget it.
 
Originally posted by: andy04
Ok, anyways... it doesnt make sence at all bcoz RAMs have effective speed of 1.5 - 2 GBps and a HDD or Flash cannot even come anywhere near it... so it defeats the purpose of RAM.
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You're the idiot from the other board, aren't you.

And why the hell would you bold the period at the end of the sentence? 😕

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: andy04
Ok, anyways... it doesnt make sence at all bcoz RAMs have effective speed of 1.5 - 2 GBps and a HDD or Flash cannot even come anywhere near it... so it defeats the purpose of RAM.
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You're the idiot from the other board, aren't you.

And why the hell would you bold the period at the end of the sentence? 😕

- M4H
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bcoz!
 
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: andy04
Ok, anyways... it doesnt make sence at all bcoz RAMs have effective speed of 1.5 - 2 GBps and a HDD or Flash cannot even come anywhere near it... so it defeats the purpose of RAM.
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Dude...just...argh....forget it.
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Ok I read the Wikipidia article and now I understand that Vista is trying to put the swap file on the Flash not the "RAM" thing. Now this makes lot of sence. It now my fault Wise A**. Its just that the original post is misleading...
 
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: andy04
Ok, anyways... it doesnt make sence at all bcoz RAMs have effective speed of 1.5 - 2 GBps and a HDD or Flash cannot even come anywhere near it... so it defeats the purpose of RAM.
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Dude...just...argh....forget it.
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Ok I read the Wikipidia article and now I understand that Vista is trying to put the swap file on the Flash not the "RAM" thing. Now this makes lot of sence. It now my fault Wise A**. Its just that the original post is misleading...
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From your sentence, its pretty plain and clear that you still completely misunderstand it.

The swap file is virtual memory - falling back to the HD for memory when there isnt enough physical memory.
The USB stick can be used as a HD cache. It is great for random transfers - which is exactly what kind of activity the swap file produces.
So while its technically a disk cache, applicable to all I/O, not just swapping - in certain low memory situations, when the disk used is as memory, the USB stick can take up some of that slack too.

And thats exactly the place where you'll see the biggest boost in low memory solutions - so if you say its a disk cache, youre right, and if you say its kind of like extra memory, youre kind of like right as well.
 
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