Is this the end of the Republican party?

[IronWing]

I am looking forward to Reince Priebus' election postmortem next year.

"We weren't conservative enough."

 

[Starbuck1975]

Sanchez' desperation does not a movement make. She's being thumped.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...z-senate-republicans-20160901-snap-story.html

Democrats don't have anywhere near the internal dissension we're seeing among Repubs no matter how you try to paint it differently. The party base is not embittered & dissatisfied with their leadership to nearly the degree of the Repubs.

Repub leaders aren't interested in solving any of the problems you mention because they don't see most of them as problems at all. Inequality? Environment? Healthcare for the plebes? They want more trickle down, fewer environmental regs & Free! Market! healthcare. More FUGM in general.

Immigration? It's becoming one of their perma-issues, like abortion. They don't want a solution, they just want something to exploit.

I wasn't claiming dissention. This thread speculates the demise of the Republican party. I stand by my assertion that as the nation continues to progressively slide left on social issues, other issues will emerge, primarily economic, that will cause the nation to fracture politically across other lines.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Good thing for you its not the leaders that actually get stuff done, we have 500+ other elected officials to do it as well. Unfortunately a majority of those elected officials prefer to put their party before their country, care to guess what party most of them belong to?

Your both sides bullshit is simply a lazy persons way of trying to avoid reality.

Republicans are obstructionists no doubt, but Democrats havent exactly achieved eutopia when left unchallenged. I've had the benefit of spending a great deal of time in cities representative of what happens when you let one party take control for too long, and the corruption, incompetence and group think that occurs when one party has a monopoly. San Francisco is a beautiful city until you cross over to Oakland and realize that the city simply exported its problems across the bay. LA is downright medieval in its wealth disparity. Seattle and Portland are starting to remind me of NYC in the 70s. Chicago continues its decline.

The reality is that absolute power corrupts absolutely. I see few shining stars from either party rising above the petty partisan nonsense.

 

[1sikbITCH]

How would I know? Am I a bag pipe or an air horn where you ask a question and I squeeze my arm to my side or push a button and expel air that makes noises? Am I a piñata you hit with a stick and treats fly everywhere. I have no idea whatsoever just like everybody else. Any opinion I might have is completely worthless.

You write novels usually. This topic shut you down.

 

[ivwshane]

Republicans are obstructionists no doubt, but Democrats havent exactly achieved eutopia when left unchallenged. I've had the benefit of spending a great deal of time in cities representative of what happens when you let one party take control for too long, and the corruption, incompetence and group think that occurs when one party has a monopoly. San Francisco is a beautiful city until you cross over to Oakland and realize that the city simply exported its problems across the bay. LA is downright medieval in its wealth disparity. Seattle and Portland are starting to remind me of NYC in the 70s. Chicago continues its decline.

The reality is that absolute power corrupts absolutely. I see few shining stars from either party rising above the petty partisan nonsense.

I agree that when one party rules unchallenged its usually not a good thing. However I think we are far from that point and besides the closer you get to the people (state, county, city) the less actual parties matter.

My concern and reasoning for creating this thread is to see if people think one of the major parties is coming to an end because that typically brings with it new parties, nationalistic parties, and that concerns me for many reasons including having an unchecked Democratic party. I have the same concerns you do with one party rule but I'm not going to start hating on a party that very much represents the people despite its inability to actually get anything done.

 

[theeedude]

This is the modern day Republican party:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...162398-6adf-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html

It belongs on the ash heap of history.

 

[DrPizza]

No, I don't believe this is the end of the Republican party. It's the end of the Tea Party party. Establishment Republicans did very well in the primaries. Those who were more extreme, "I'm with Trump" didn't do as well. I think it was more of a hiccup for the Republican party that they'll be over within another POTUS cycle or two.

 

[theeedude]

California governance improved markedly when it took away Republican ability to obstruct.

 

[feralkid]

They may try to "champion" those value's, but haven't pulled that off in years. aside from the social issue's

Please tell us those are typographic errors.

 

[Moonbeam]

I believe that by the time whatever unknowable thing happens to the Republican party in the future I will have conveniently forgotten whatever fantasy I was having in the present and with such all consuming certainty, such that the real lessen I needed to learn, my egotistical need to pretend to myself that I know things in general that can't be known will fail to register consciously. I didn't know anything when I was young but trust and love, and I will never ever be taken advantage of again by returning to that state.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Honestly when a person evaluates themselves and the things that are important to them only then can they review political party platforms and discern which one best aligns with their own views. Too many people accept the opinions of others and end up supporting one for all of the wrong reasons. My business and employment law studies as well as U.S. labor history opened my eyes and forced me to realign myself. I was a registered as a Republican up to that point but once I compared things I had no choice but to change parties and register as a Democrat.

The bible beaters would do well to review some of Jesus's teachings concerning the church and its duty to support the poor and the needy in society. Once supposed Christians can understand some of the basics there's no way that they can continue to support the right wing business centric Republican party. Neither party has a platform that I can get 100% behind but until things change that is what we are saddled with and I chose to support the one who supports the poor and working class people.

 

[MovingTarget]

Honestly when a person evaluates themselves and the things that are important to them only then can they review political party platforms and discern which one best aligns with their own views. Too many people accept the opinions of others and end up supporting one for all of the wrong reasons. My business and employment law studies as well as U.S. labor history opened my eyes and forced me to realign myself. I was a registered as a Republican up to that point but once I compared things I had no choice but to change parties and register as a Democrat.

The bible beaters would do well to review some of Jesus's teachings concerning the church and its duty to support the poor and the needy in society. Once supposed Christians can understand some of the basics there's no way that they can continue to support the right wing business centric Republican party. Neither party has a platform that I can get 100% behind but until things change that is what we are saddled with and I chose to support the one who supports the poor and working class people.

Are you my doppleganger or something here? That was my very experience. Those very subjects are what caused me to realign myself. The older I get, the more I realize just how much the GOP has eroded workers' rights/protections/benefits and just how the label "Christian Conservative" is a contradiction in terms.

 

[Jhhnn]

There's a lot of economic stress & uncertainty for small town America in the aftermath of the Ownership Society, the crowning glory of decades of ascendant right wing policy. That policy has been preserved by Repub Congresses since 2010. It's failed trickle down that makes the rich richer at the expense of everybody else.

That dependence on the Job Creators hasn't worked out well for them. They got dumped & they're bitter about it, yet blame anybody & everybody but the perps & their own pride in letting it happen. They're mired in FUD.

It really has happened. Your services are no longer required by the profit makers, not to the degree that will make your communities prosper. They. don't. need. you. They never gave you any more than the minimum, anyway, and now that there are more of you than they choose to employ... well, the rest is obvious.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Are you my doppleganger or something here?

Perhaps. I hear too many people, my own family included, who tend to echo the opinions of others without sufficiently researching a matter for the facts to form a foundation to support the claim. I do not in any way profess to be some super Christian with super human spiritual powers that somehow make my opinion more worthy than others but I do try to base what I believe on facts.

I look at how the Republicans under Bush were hell bent on trying to privatize social security which would've wrecked the program turning it into a profit making venture for rich Republicans at the expense of the very people who depend on it. Each time a successful social program becomes law it doesn't take very long for Republicans to try to undo it or seek new ways to reduce its effectiveness returning power back to rich business owners. I think back to the struggles of the working class in this country and how business owners and leaders saw them as nothing more than animals to be abused in the name of profit. This incident, the Triangle Shirtwaist fire, always touches my heart when I think about all of this and if you don't know about labor history you might consider learning about the things that have happened in our first world country. http://www.history.com/topics/triangle-shirtwaist-fire