Is this the beginning of the end for Kazaa?

[tec699]

This is just a small tidbit of kazaa news: Kazaa

I was just discussing with a fellow coworker today why I believe Kazaa will fall in the near future. The movie and music industry have too much influence in the Senate and too much money is involved. I'm suprised that it hasn't happened much sooner, because you can literally download any form of entertainment for no charge. For instance, if I wanted a certain movie why should I go to the Mall when I can download it from kazaa for free and then burn it on a dvd? The suites, especially for the movie industry must be a little worried especially since cable is expected to blossom in the next few years. It's going to be very easy to download for free what ever you want. Maybe the movie industry is afraid of huge loses due to illegal downloading?

Anyway, I expect Kazaa to lose this one.

 

[edjam]

Originally posted by: tec699
This is just a small tidbit of kazaa news: [L=Kazaa]Maybe the movie industry is afraid of huge loses due to illegal downloading?

Uh, yeah pretty much, just like Napster initially with the music business.

 

[Red Dawn]

I'm waiting for the end of the RIAA myself. The sooner the better!

 

[Zebo]

Learning curve again?..... that sucks I was just getting used the Kazza application.


(in other words something new will replace it before the ink is dry on what ever congress, RIAA, or the courts decrees)

 

[Ausm]

Kazaa's headquarters is located in Australia so I think they will have a tough time trying to shut them down. If they do shut them down...another company will pop up with aother twist in P2P sharing. I predict P2P sharing will never die...but I hope the RIAA does...

Ausm

 

[CraigRT]

Is this the beginning of the end for Kazaa?

lets hope so.

 

[BooneRebel]

Originally posted by: axiomIf someone came along and made a car that got 50MPG, looked cool, kept you safe and only cost $5000, the auto industry would have to start competing with it.

Look at Diesel or Tucker. The auto industry wouldn't permit your hypothetical car to make it to market.

 

[GasX]

Boo!

I have a right to freely download anything I want for free in direct violation of copyright law!

 

[KokomoGST]

Well, I recall reading an article... it was on Wired or some similar publication where the writer was familiar with book publishing.

Basically, his response that the music industry in unwilling and too dumb to realize that they need to embrace new technology like Napster/Kazaa as a new method of promotion and distribution. From polls here before, most people acknowledge that they haven't really bought too many new CDs in retail stores lately. I know some people that demand quality & known source so they buy used and rip for themselves.

If they shut down Kazaa, something else will get bigger like emule or Limewire or some other P2P thing. NNTP serving has been around for so long, has RIAA tried to axe that yet?

 

[Dufman]

the decentralized servers, and the FREE downloads of the kazza software will make kazza the winner with this legal fit.

even if the do "loose" how can they stop the millions of people that use it? have the fbi fake names on kazza, and come to your house and arrest you for downloading a pre-release copy of the the return of the king?

perhaps the courts can stop the kazza company from making new software, but cant effectly, or effecinently stop the people who already use the program.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Yield

Is this the beginning of the end for Kazaa?

lets hope so.

WTF are you smoking? Do you work for the RIAA?


Ausm

 

[Aceshigh]

Their ownership is Australian, but I think they incorporated Kazaa in the pacific island of Vanatuu, which has no copyright laws whatsoever. So I don't think we have to worry about Kazaa going away like Napster. We will have to put up with the RIAA and their attempts to flood Kazaa with bogus files though.

 

[SnapIT]

Doesn't matter, true peer to peer file sharing, which is serverless, can never be stopped anyway... they would have to shut down internet to make that happen...

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Doesn't matter, true peer to peer file sharing, which is serverless, can never be stopped anyway... they would have to shut down internet to make that happen...

Exactly. That's something the RIAA doesn't understand. It will never end and they'll spend millions and millions of dollars to lawyers to accomplish nothing. The sooner they figure out that trading music over the internet isn't going away and make a change to accomodate that, the better off they'll be.

 

[tec699]

Originally posted by: axiom
Well the movie industry and record industry probably just need to keep up with the demands of consumers right?

The RIAA and MPAA would tell you differently. You see these organizations do one thing, protect the profits of their industry. If someone came along and made a car that got 50MPG, looked cool, kept you safe and only cost $5000, the auto industry would have to start competing with it. The entertainment business doesn't want to change at all. They don't want to look at the marketplace and say "Hey, people actually want this stuff.". The last thing we need is more law enforcement trying enforce more than alraedy crazy amount of bogus laws we have. Could you imagine trying to enforce "No Installing Kazaa" in the US? How the hell could they even do it?

Oh yea it happens in the automobile industry as well...

Look at the electric car. Why haven't we seen more of these on the road? I'll tell you why. The automoblie industry has to much money involved in politics to ever let this happen. If they allowed cell generated or electric cars to populate US highways, it would cause huge profit loses for the traditional auto mobile makers such as Ford. And lets not even talk about oil companies. Imagine a car that doesn't rely on oil? The major oil manufactures would cry foul play. Will never happen because money is the determining factor.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Learning curve again?..... that sucks I was just getting used the Kazza application.


(in other words something new will replace it before the ink is dry on what ever congress, RIAA, or the courts decrees)

First Napster, then Morpheus now Grokster(kazaa)....what's next folks?

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: Yield

Is this the beginning of the end for Kazaa?

lets hope so.

WTF are you smoking? Do you work for the RIAA?


Ausm

no, i just hate the program.. i've actually never personally installed it once on any of the computers i use daily.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: Yield

Is this the beginning of the end for Kazaa?

lets hope so.

WTF are you smoking? Do you work for the RIAA?


Ausm

no, i just hate the program.. i've actually never personally installed it once on any of the computers i use daily.

Thyen how do you know it sucks? Kazza Lite works great for me.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Learning curve again?..... that sucks I was just getting used the Kazza application.


(in other words something new will replace it before the ink is dry on what ever congress, RIAA, or the courts decrees)

First Napster, then Morpheus now Grokster(kazaa)....what's next folks?

Actually i use winmx the rare times I steal but I was just making a point.

 

[Fausto]

Honestly, I'm constantly amazed that the RIAA haven't gone after usenet providers yet given the massive amounts of copyrighted material getting posted on a daily basis.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you...

 

[HokieESM]

Originally posted by: tec699

Originally posted by: axiom
Oh yea it happens in the automobile industry as well...

Look at the electric car. Why haven't we seen more of these on the road? I'll tell you why. The automoblie industry has to much money involved in politics to ever let this happen. If they allowed cell generated or electric cars to populate US highways, it would cause huge profit loses for the traditional auto mobile makers such as Ford. And lets not even talk about oil companies. Imagine a car that doesn't rely on oil? The major oil manufactures would cry foul play. Will never happen because money is the determining factor.

Ah... I'd be careful about saying that... its not exactly an analagous case. There IS a tremendous amount of research in the electric car arena--most of it sponsored by Ford, GM, and DaimlerChrysler. I work at a major university--and DC pumps in around $2 million in electric car research. There are tremendous technical difficulties right now which are trying to be solved (even super-light vehicles--such as the EV1--with very expensive rare-earth metal batteries are still only getting about 200 miles on a full charge... and then take five to six hours to completely recharge).

Actually, I think what is keeping electric or hybrid (hell, even diesel) technology from going mainstream is the SAME thing that is keeping P2P afloat--the consumers. Look at the Insight and the Prius--they can't GIVE them away (actually, they ARE taking a loss on each one). And people run out and buy the biggest, baddest SUV they can that gets 10 mpg (look at how many H2s that GM has sold).

Anyhow. P2P will never die..... it, in some form or another, WILL exist because the need to exchange information is so great. If the RIAA would embrace it.... and actually pay attention that their record sales have not slumped since Napster became popular, they would realize that P2P is the GREATEST advertising scheme ever. I don't use a P2P program right now--I tend to trade albums with my friends--but I have in the past... and it broadened my musical taste quite a bit. Sure, I may have downloaded every album band X has produced... but I guarantee, I went out and bought at least one of them. And its an album that radio/MTV/word of mouth would have never convinced me to buy.

 

[CurtCold]

I dunno why they choose to harass Napster, Morpheus, and Kazaa, when programs like Mirc, and DirectConnect have been around a helluva lot longer. They can't stop data transfers, the RIAA needs to quit whining and change with the times.

Also if you've never used a program, please don't say it sucks.

 

[Yossarian]

waitaminnit, I thought the RIAA liked Kazaa? I got a copy of it from their site

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: Fausto1
Honestly, I'm constantly amazed that the RIAA haven't gone after usenet providers yet given the massive amounts of copyrighted material getting posted on a daily basis.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you...

::SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH:: Usenet?!?! Whats that?!?! no such thing... dont make stuff up now...

[cough]mIRC also[/cough]

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Fausto1
Honestly, I'm constantly amazed that the RIAA haven't gone after usenet providers yet given the massive amounts of copyrighted material getting posted on a daily basis.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you...

::SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH:: Usenet?!?! Whats that?!?! no such thing... dont make stuff up now...

[cough]mIRC also[/cough]

Whoops, sorry about that guys. I have a twin brother named Fausto2 who happens to be a pathological liar that was logged onto my account earlier. Discount anything he may have said.