Originally posted by: KF
Originally posted by: Insane3D
OMG!! You're gonna use Intel and expect stability?!?!? No WAY!!
Seriously neoro- you want maximum stability? Don't get a mobo until it has been around (for sale) 3 months. Run one stick of memory (unless the chipset has two memory controllers) which has the minimum number of chips (probably 8). Run the motherboard at conservative memory settings below what the memory is rated at. Underclock. Don't run anything that uses AGP - or better, use a PCI video card. Get on-board sound, or none. Use drivers that are one step back (as long as they work OK.) Put a big heatsink on the CPU that runs the loudest 80mm fan you can find. Leave the case open and hang an 120mm fan directed at the CPU and the video card.
Since you are a gamer (evidently), you are going to have to compromise. As best as I can tell, the extreme gamers run their system on the bloody edge of insanity (to get the max frame rate.) They OC to an extent that they require a new processor every few months (no problem) due to overvoltage. If you back off from that some, you can probably get a system the crashes due to hardware a couple of times a month or less. Since the typical game crashes more often than that due to software bugs (once they get it to work at all), that should be acceptable.
Some gratuitous advice: Do not blow the budget to get your dream system. In six months it will look sick compared to the new stuff, you will be out of money, and feel like an idiot.
where are you getting this bs?
what would you have us do buy cheap and when it won't play the games we want, buy again?no thanks
the reason i buy the best available is, i don't have to wait to get the best.
i will use it until forced to upgrade in 3 years and spend less time time trying to figure out what bottle neck i have that prevents game"x" from running.
my rig is not a pci video ladden, underclocked, undervolted, piece of unprocessing power.
if i was to do all of the mods you suggest,wouldn't that be like throwing my computing money away?maybe i just need a p3 550 and a matrox millenium video card etc...try running ut2003 on that lol
at stock speeds:the proper drivers, proper cooling,your rig should be stable,compromising quality parts will affect this of course(akin to buying a ferrari and trying to put a jet engine in it:Q while it may seem like a smart thing to do odds are it would wreak havok with the slower parts)
but for the majority of gamers who do overclock, stability is the determining factor of enough is enough.
what good would an overclock be if you had to put up with crashes and instability?
i also use my computer for things other than gaming without stability issues,such as ripping dvd's,recording music,editing video...would i be happy with my "rig" if it caused me to redo the same proceedure over again if it wasn't stable?no
maybe this works for you but i highly doubt there are many that would be happy with a machine with your specs as stated above.
is this the type of machine you play games on?
neoro:you should be fine.there are some boards that won't run two sticks of ram overclocked but will run them at stock speed.
hth
mike
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