is this racist? scholarship for whites only

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AreaCode707

Lifer
Sep 21, 2001
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In college, based on my gender, financial background, area of study and academic performance I was eligible for a full ride scholarship...

if I were Hispanic.

As it was, I didn't get a dime for school in scholarships because I'm white.
 

QueBert

Lifer
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Explain. How is someone at an economic disadvantage just because they are a certain race? Or educational? Last time I checked school is provided free to all US citizens through high school. They don't see asian/hispanic/black kids and say no you can't go to school. They don't segregate the class and give better instruction to some races vs. others.

I went to a high school that was about 95% Black & Latino. The highest level math class offered was pre-algebra, and it was taught by the same teacher who taught other math classes. So if you wanted to take Pre-Algebra and were LUCKY, you might get in the class. I did not get in it, so in 12th grade I was doing fractions. Something most kids would be doing in 5th grade, what a great way to get a person prepared for college right? Ironically the math I did in 6th grade was probably a level higher than what I was doing my senior year.

Previously I went to a pretty bad mostly white high school, there were at least options there. But compared to the one I finished in, the white school was an ivy leave school. Bad minority filled high schools are significantly worse than a mostly white bad school. This is a huge disadvantage.

People who use Obama as "proof" are fucking stupid, I know a functioning Crackhead who works at a store I frequent. they've been smoking crack for 15 years and still hold a full time job and actually look very healthy. So I guess that means all crack heads should be able to smoke crack and still maintain right? Some things are considered exceptions to the rule for a reason. And if you make the exception the example you're doing it wrong.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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not at all. IF its ok to have other scholarships based off race then it should be fine to have one as white only.
 

Train

Lifer
Jun 22, 2000
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I went to a high school that was about 95% Black & Latino. The highest level math class offered was pre-algebra, and it was taught by the same teacher who taught other math classes. So if you wanted to take Pre-Algebra and were LUCKY, you might get in the class. I did not get in it, so in 12th grade I was doing fractions. Something most kids would be doing in 5th grade, what a great way to get a person prepared for college right? Ironically the math I did in 6th grade was probably a level higher than what I was doing my senior year.

Previously I went to a pretty bad mostly white high school, there were at least options there. But compared to the one I finished in, the white school was an ivy leave school. Bad minority filled high schools are significantly worse than a mostly white bad school. This is a huge disadvantage.

People who use Obama as "proof" are fucking stupid, I know a functioning Crackhead who works at a store I frequent. they've been smoking crack for 15 years and still hold a full time job and actually look very healthy. So I guess that means all crack heads should be able to smoke crack and still maintain right? Some things are considered exceptions to the rule for a reason. And if you make the exception the example you're doing it wrong.

The shitty high school you describe is shitty because of programs like affirmative action. They lower thier standards knowing that the more kids they graduate, the more will get shoved into colleges that need to hit thier "diversity targets", and dont need to meet academic standards because blacks are held to a lower standard, you know, because they are "disadvantaged"

It didn't get that shitty over night, it was little by little, for decades.

And what about a white kid who went to that shitty school? And was only able to take pre-algebra? Because he is supposedly "more advantaged" the the others because of his race, he ends up being the most screwed of all.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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In the end, I don't think this is racist at all, and I also see that race-based scholarships are very, very important.

That is not to say that quotas for admission or recruiting are problematic. This is different than offering a scholarship.
 

Murloc

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I think that scholarship should be based on wheter the student is able to pay for school or not.
Blacks have disadvantages and have problems getting the money?
Then they will get most of the scholarships, because they're poorer than white people.
If that doesn't happen, it means it's not true or there are racist people around.
 

MotionMan

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Jan 11, 2006
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President of the United States
Highest paid professional athlete in 2010
Top Earning Actor in 2010
Hollywood's Highest-Earning Woman in 2010

All white Jews from privileged families.

Amazing.

;)

MotionMan
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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I said it's not racist, but it is.

I mean, if all the other scholarships are allowed to exist without scrutiny, then this scholarship should exist as well. I completely agree with the white guy, not every white family has the resources to pay for college. Do white people get better interests? Maybe, but a majority of that is based on your credit history, so if you make bad choices, it's no fault but your own.

It pisses me off with all the double standards. Black people want "equality," but yet they're the first ones to claim they're inferior and thus require more benefits. The hell? Equality suggests you get the same benefits as everyone else.

Being white alone is a scholarship... LOL.

The black guy in the video sickens me. It's really sad we still have people like him today. It's ok for a black person or brown person to have it but not for a white person. I forget though that just because he's black he's not a racist.

Morgan Freeman
 
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PieIsAwesome

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Feb 11, 2007
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How do they verify whiteness?

I had a friend in HS that was just a regular white guy with a dark complexion. He put on all his college applications that he was part native american, and got a lot of grants/scholarships because of it. Total douche move.

People need to bang someone of a different race and have their children get with people of different races, that way their children will be able to qualify for everything!

I say that I am white, hispanic, and amerindian. Huzzah! Free money weeeeeee.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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People need to bang someone of a different race and have their children get with people of different races, that way their children will be able to qualify for everything!

No because they'd be too diluted to get any scholarships.
 

Imported

Lifer
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People need to bang someone of a different race and have their children get with people of different races, that way their children will be able to qualify for everything!

I say that I am white, hispanic, and amerindian. Huzzah! Free money weeeeeee.

I gotta find a latin/black chick then. Our kids can be 1/4 Chinese, 1/4 East European, 1/4 Latin, 1/4 Black.
 

polarmystery

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I'm with Morgan Freeman. Racial propaganda being blown up my ass is annoying. My dad's side of my family is either in jail for gang or drug related crimes, and yet here I am...an electrical engineer working for a Defense Contractor with no criminal record at all...

404 Disadvantage not found...

Signed,
A real black guy on these forums.
 

epidemis

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Jun 6, 2007
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I think you forget there are white guys that are disadvantaged from birth.. I think we should keep it up for our brothers in the trailer-park slums!
 

dpodblood

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I don't understand how people can say with a straight face that a "black scholarship" isnt racist and a "white scholarship" is. Just because one group in the minority that means it's not racist anymore? wtf? If people want racism eradicated than stop treating people differently because of their skin color. Simple as that...
 

Bignate603

Lifer
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The black guy in the video sickens me. It's really sad we still have people like him today. It's ok for a black person or brown person to have it but not for a white person. I forget though that just because he's black he's not a racist.

Morgan Freeman

I've got to agree. I was applying for scholarships when I was in school and if I had been a minority there would have been tons more that I could have applied for. Sure, minorities are statistically more likely to come from families with problems, go to worse schools, or be of a socio-economic class that has less advantages. While it's less likely that a white male came from that background there still are plenty that do. Those white males that come from a bad situation will have significantly less opportunity than anyone else, they don't have any of the advantages that people claim white males have and they are eligible for far less scholarships.

What they really need to do is start looking at aid based on a person's background, not their race. Some races may be more likely to be in a situations that make it difficult to get ahead, but that doesn't mean that other people from other races can't be just as bad.

Came from a single parent home with a mom that works two jobs to make ends meet? Sure, you need help no matter what race you are.

Came from a black family that was well off with two parents that both went to college and earn good money? Why on earth would you need a scholarship just because you're black? You've got more advantages than a huge portion of the population!
 

guyver01

Lifer
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does this make you laugh? then you're a racist.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
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There should be no scholarships based on race, and no affirmative action. I agree with Morgan Freeman.
 

Bignate603

Lifer
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There shouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action.

The paradox is that as long as there are things like affirmative action or scholarships that target specific groups based on ethnicity there will be a need for them. Choosing people based on race rather than merit or need breeds dependence and also sends the message that it's ok for them to be less skilled, knowledgeable or hard working because of "past injustice".

As long as people keep on believing that they're owed something due to their race it's impossible for them to be equal. That belief is the definition of inequality.
 

DCal430

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Yes it is, and so are black only scholarships, or asian only. Time we see beyond skin color people. We are all one people.