Is this power supply messing up my overclock

NOBEL

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I have been struggling to overclock a 3000 Winchester to 2 GHZ, I have been reading all over about how well these things can go.
I know that not all CPU are the same, but I have done a lot in the past 3 days.
- exchanged the CPU twice
- messed around with the HTT, CPU voltage, RAM voltage, CPU multipiler, etc.

So I am wracking my brain over this and just by chance I check my PSU ratings..

12 is at 11.84

3.3 is at 3.24

I cannot remember the other values, but they are at least .20 V under the rated specifications.
Is this acceptable, BTW the power supply I have is a NSPIRE 450W.
 

LTC8K6

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Exchanging a CPU because you couldn't get it to overclock? Twice?

That's just sad.
 

piroroadkill

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You don't mention what mobo you have, this information may be more important.

If you reckon it's the PSU, buy a good one anyway, swap it out, if it helps, you got your answer. If it makes no difference, it's probably your mobo, either way, a spare PSU is always handy.
 

NOBEL

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Say what you will, but when I am able to do things as such at my whim, I'll do as whatever the hell I want, but your opinion (which you are entitled to) will go in the "@$$" folder.

The mobo I have is a Asus A8N SLI Deluxe, with a Sapphire X800XT PE, and 1 gig of PC3200 ram.
I hope any of this information is helpful.
 

charloscarlies

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Originally posted by: NOBEL
LTC8K6
Say what you will, but when I am able to do things as such at my whim, I'll do as whatever the hell I want, but your opinion (which you are entitled to) will go in the "@$$" folder.

The mobo I have is a Asus A8N SLI Deluxe, with a Sapphire X800XT PE, and 1 gig of PC3200 ram.
I hope any of this information is helpful.

Well go ahead and throw me in the "@$$" folder as well because exchanging a working CPU because it won't overclock is just sad. But you're right...do as you wish.

You might want to include more info about your bios settings...would be a lot easier to help if you did.
 

NOBEL

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The RAM is generic (Infineon) 2.5 7 7 10 I think.
I was able to get 220 FSB on 1:1, anything after that (with or without a divider), would cause it to crash.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Wait a minute! I've leaked $75 from my wallet in the last five months so far swapping retail CPU's and reselling the used one! If your interest is in overclocking, how is that any worse than any other pastime? As long as the guy doesn't pour money down the toilet . . . .

I rather suspect your limitations are due to the memory choice you've made, but wouldn't know it firsthand. It just seems "obvious". It could also be the mobo, but I don't think you've picked good memory for what you want to do with it.

This is your choice. If you can get through PRIME95 with the Infineon with a 220 external frequency, you certainly have the option to stand pat. Here, I assume you mean by 220 FSB what Intel geeks mean by 220 external frequency.

That leaves the PSU issue. A 12V rail with actual value of 11.84V and a 3.3V rail of 3.24V is still pretty much within acceptable tolerance. I only dumped my PSU because certain over-clock settings were causing the 12V rail down to 11.5 or 11.6. Even so, there ARE PSU's available that will hold their 12V values regardless of what settings you throw at them, and I'm assuming that your rail values are occurring at both stock and OC settings -- in which case, it is "not perfectly adjusted by manufacturer but within tolerance."
 

BonzaiDuck

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Mmm. I see your mobo is an ASUS A8N. That can't be it. It's the RAM, if anything. If the PSU holds those rail voltages you quoted, it shouldn't be that, either.
 

res0n0xg

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im pretty sure its the video card causing all your problems, as you have rammed an AGP video card into a PCI-X slot..... I'm actually pretty surprised the PC works at all, but who knows anyways who these crazy things work nowadays. try taking a hammer and smashing that x800xt pe out of the pci-x slot then re smash up the slot back to form and put a pci-x video card in and try things over. or you could just tell us the real specs of what you have....
 

BonzaiDuck

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res0n0xg

LOL. Interesting mobo configuration. It HAS PCI-x, but it uses DDR, which I suppose is what you're gonna use with any AMD CPU at the moment. And it provides SLI capability, but he's only socketed a single video-card socketed, unless his syntax and usage is inaccurate.

Now it occurs to me that there may be some mobo settings that determine whether he runs one or two vid-cards. But I could be wrong about that, although I'd say "check it out".

Then there's the Sapphire x800 xt video card. That thing comes in both PCI-x and AGP flavors. Could it be he got the wrong card? I cannot see how the system would even post with the wrong video card.

I still cannot understand why you would buy Infineon memory for over-clocking when you have a choice of anything from Kingston to Corsair, to Crucial to OCZ to Mushkin. I suppose I should look at Infineon's offering, but Nobel himself says it is "generic", and that's what I would have understood without his statement.
 

superkdogg

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Two novel concepts:

1. Don't have such a bad attitude (hence my tone). Exchanging CPU's for no good reason is fraudulent and dishonest and while nobody can control your behavior but you, it is within reason for somebody to disagree with your behavior.

2. There's more to OC'ing than CPU. I doubt it's your memory if you have properly set up the divider. The reason I say if, is that since you say your ram is spec'd @ 2.5-7-7 I don't know how much skill you have (those timings are not correct). I have read about people having issues OC'ing on the PCI-E boards like yours. I don't have one, so you'll have to wait for more specific help from somebody who does.

In the meantime, hold on to your current CPU. It's VERY unlikely that the CPU has ever been your problem. I have not heard of ANY Winchesters that couldn't reach 2.2.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: res0n0xg
im pretty sure its the video card causing all your problems, as you have rammed an AGP video card into a PCI-X slot..... I'm actually pretty surprised the PC works at all, but who knows anyways who these crazy things work nowadays. try taking a hammer and smashing that x800xt pe out of the pci-x slot then re smash up the slot back to form and put a pci-x video card in and try things over. or you could just tell us the real specs of what you have....

hahaha, thats classic!

or try to return the smashed up mobo because it doesn't oc well

 

LTC8K6

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RMA the mobo a couple of times now. Then try a couple more vid cards.

Maybe we can get a good deal on the "refurbed" stuff? I have been looking to set up an AMD system.