Is this normal of recent retirees?

Flyback

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I love my parents and they are great people.

But they seem to always find a need to do something that ends up complicating their life more than it needs to be. I guess it is because they have this newfound time on their hands being retired and having no kids at home. They constantly find ways to spend money that doesn't need to be spent.

I normally wouldn't care if it was something trivial, and I'd say its well deserved in retirement (whether its a new car, some traveling or a home theatre). But they spend much, much more. Mostly on failed business "ideas" that were doomed from the onset.

My sister and I were both actually relieved when my parents were having hard times in their businesses because they couldn't free up any more money to dig themselves out--this was their only saving grace from spending more money.

Fortunately my side business has been growing and I'm graduating college soon. I'm positive that once I get things on track I can hire my father to work for me. I think it will be good because he will then work under me and will have a regular 9-5 again where they can live a so-called "normal" life. My father is the smartest person I've ever met--smarter than any professor I've met at college and I'm sure we will make a great team together (with me in charge, mind you). I'm also trying to get my mother involved in more activities like getting out with her friends and such. I think that both activities would take my parents minds off the bad ideas.

Anyone else ever experience something similar? It seems like a lot of unnecessary stress when they should just sit back and enjoy retirement rather than blowing their savings. I want them to live the next 25-30+ years (hope they live even longer) stress-free if possible but it's almost like they purposely complicate it.

What else can I do other than trying to keep them occupied? I tried confronting them with my sister but they wouldn't hear it.
 

MrDudeMan

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why dont you mind your own business and let them do whatever they want? they have been alive long enough to know that if they take a risk, they could lose everything. live your own life and let them live theirs.
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
why dont you mind your own business and let them do whatever they want? they have been alive long enough to know that if they take a risk, they could lose everything. live your own life and let them live theirs.

Because they are my parents and I want to see them do well?

Jesus Christ if you have to ask...
 

creedog

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
why dont you mind your own business and let them do whatever they want? they have been alive long enough to know that if they take a risk, they could lose everything. live your own life and let them live theirs.

His parents are his business if they are going to expect him to care for them when they are old and broke.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
why dont you mind your own business and let them do whatever they want? they have been alive long enough to know that if they take a risk, they could lose everything. live your own life and let them live theirs.

Because they are my parents and I want to see them do well?

Jesus Christ if you have to ask...

according to you:

They constantly find ways to spend money that doesn't need to be spent.

Who is in a position to make a statement like that? you or them? what if they think you make incredibly stupid decisions but decide to support you anyway? you are basically saying that their ideas and what they choose to do with their money/time are inferior to your own preferences. what a great kid you must be.

Mostly on failed business "ideas" that were doomed from the onset.

again with the incredible support for their ideas and dreams. way to go. even if the ideas sucked, thinking they sucked and going along with it makes you that much more of a coward.

My sister and I were both actually relieved when my parents were having hard times in their businesses

basking in their defeat. spectacular.


I'm positive that once I get things on track I can hire my father to work for me.

who says he wants to work for you? what if he has more "stupid" business ideas to pursue? do you honestly think that your business is going to save your father from his "stupidity"?

I think it will be good because he will then work under me and will have a regular 9-5 again where they can live a so-called "normal" life.

what if he doesnt want a "regular" 9-5 job anymore? he may have been waiting for retirement to do something exciting with his life. you are so narrow minded.

My father is the smartest person I've ever met

this one is a real winner. he is so smart that he cant make his own decisions with his money. you are such a hypocrite. if he is as smart as you say he is, why would he want to work for someone else again and be stuck in a monotonous 9-5 job when he has freedom now? or maybe he isnt smart at all and you are just trying to build yourself up by saying you have the means to give your parents a decent chance at life, when they are probably living exactly how they want to now.

(with me in charge, mind you).

such a smart man...but not as smart as you. the business would fail if dad was running it, right?

I'm also trying to get my mother involved in more activities like getting out with her friends and such. I think that both activities would take my parents minds off the bad ideas.

you are trying to control your mom too. and lets not forget that last part about how all of their ideas are stupid from the start. i wonder if they thought all of your ideas were really stupid and didnt support you...maybe you wouldnt have turned out to be as intelligent as you apparently think you are.

are you seriously trying to force someone more than twice your age to go hang out with friends? dont you think she has been alive long enough to decide how she wants to spend her spare time?

What else can I do other than trying to keep them occupied? I tried confronting them with my sister but they wouldn't hear it.

and lastly, your parents tell you as nicely as possible to STFU and let them do what they want, but you didnt get it. why is it your job to keep your parents occupied when they are out there trying to make something happen? they sound like good people, as you said, so im curious how they ended up with such a selfish and narrow minded child like you, who thinks he can tell his parents what to do because they make terrible decisions.

who bought you food when you were growing up? how did you pay for college? how did you get your first car? i bet a lot of that had to do with your parents and their "stupid" financial decisions. even if you say you paid for all of it yourself, i would have a hard time believing it based on how much you think of yourself.

Originally posted by: creedog
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
why dont you mind your own business and let them do whatever they want? they have been alive long enough to know that if they take a risk, they could lose everything. live your own life and let them live theirs.

His parents are his business if they are going to expect him to care for them when they are old and broke.

but expecting your parents to listen to you when you tell them how to manage their finances? i would guess if they made it to retirement that they at least have some idea of how to control their lives. there is nothing more annoying than kids who think their parents are stupid and should change their lives because the kid thinks they have a better way.

you are right...his parents are his business, but their lives and the way they choose to live them are THEIR business. if they wanted his input, im sure they would ask for it. if they expect him and his sister to take care of them when they are old and broke, that is another issue altogether, but unless they have specifically said they are expecting that, then asking or telling your parents that their way is wrong and yours is right is downright stupid and selfish.
 

Flyback

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Actually MrDudeMan, it was kind of understood that I would end up supporting my parents as my sister won't make enough as a teacher to help with it.

But you know what, screw it. You're right, it was their decision to do all this. I don't know how or why I thought anything less of them. It was 100% their choice. If they end up eating canned dog food, that will be on them.

I should just quit talking with them, after all, their life is their business and not mine. If it causes me that much anxiety then obviously we shouldn't be around each other anymore!
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Actually MrDudeMan, it was kind of understood that I would end up supporting my parents as my sister won't make enough as a teacher to help with it.

But you know what, screw it. You're right, it was their decision to do all this. I don't know how or why I thought anything less of them. It was 100% their choice. If they end up eating canned dog food, that will be on them.

I should just quit talking with them, after all, their life is their business and not mine. If it causes me that much anxiety then obviously we shouldn't be around each other anymore!

did i say you shouldnt still care for them or have a relationship with them? no, i didnt. what i said was if they choose to make a financial decision without consulting you, that probably means they didnt want your input. not in a mean way, but if you dont ask a specific person for advice, generally that means you were fine making the decision on your own. i have no idea if your previous post was purely sarcastic or if you were actually agreeing with me behind a sarcastic front. either way, im not trying to make you feel like scum or tell you to STFU, but i do think you should quit worrying about what they choose to do with their retirement funds because that is their choice to make. i wont chastise you anymore but i hope you can at least understand where im coming from, agree or disagree.
 

winr

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Good for you wanting to look out for your parents.

They looked out for you when you were young and now you want to look out for them.

I have seen how People change when they get older, some of them start making weird decisions.

Also, it is true a person can be very intelligent and still make irrational decisisions.

:)

 

AStar617

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Examples of said "failed business "ideas" that were doomed from the onset", please? :)
 

animalia

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I don't think your father will accept your offer to work for you. That's just my humble opinion.
 

Meatyone

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
i have no idea if your previous post was purely sarcastic or if you were actually agreeing with me behind a sarcastic front.
Why should he have been sarcastic...? [rereads MrDudeMan's first post] Oh.