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ayman

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I need some pc3200 for my other computer. It's a pentium 4 2.6ghz.

Right now i have it set at 2.7 ghz for the hell of it. I'm currently using some pc2700 and i don't know what brand it is because i took that ram outta this other sony vaio. The computer idles at 29-30C with stock hs/fan and AS5, although i'll buy a better hs/fan later.

This computer is mainly for games and i want the pc3200 to get rid of the bottleneck and so that i can overclock it. I'm going for a 3.0 - 3.2 ghz speed. Will the VS ram suit me fine?

This is what i had in mind. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80093-6. I thought i'd buy two of those so that i can run in dual channel, instead of 1 stick. After looking through ZZF's site i found some dual channel kits but nothing with a cas2.5, they were all cas3. So i'm thinking i'll buy 2 sticks of that.

Any other Value Ram suggested? I dont want anything fancy for this pc, because its only my secondary computer. I only want 512mb.

Current Specs on the P4 system are as follows:
Northwood P4 2.6
Aopen micro atx mobo
ATI 9600xt 128mb
512 pc2700 crappy ram ;o


Thanks,

Ayman
 
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ts3433

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You can. Remember, dual channel has to do with the memory controller, not your memory modules (so as long as you have a dual channel chipset, you'll be able to use the RAM in dual channel). Any two matched sticks will work, and often two different kinds of sticks of the same capacity will work too. Latencies shouldn't matter, so don't worry about those. However, I would try seeing if the PC2700 actually cripples your system that much (as in a very noticeable difference). If it does, try overclocking the RAM before you spend $70 on new RAM (I'd have a hard time justifying it unless I knew it would be a very big increase, at least until I had a lot of money and was actually driving [insert luxury car here]... hell, I'm not even of legal age to drive our Neon).
 
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ribbon13

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You can do that just fine. I just meant the most packaged dual stick kits are 2x512mb
 
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ayman

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Originally posted by: ts3433
You can. Remember, dual channel has to do with the memory controller, not your memory modules (so as long as you have a dual channel chipset, you'll be able to use the RAM in dual channel). Any two matched sticks will work, and often two different kinds of sticks of the same capacity will work too. Latencies shouldn't matter, so don't worry about those. However, I would try seeing if the PC2700 actually cripples your system that much (as in a very noticeable difference). If it does, try overclocking the RAM before you spend $70 on new RAM (I'd have a hard time justifying it unless I knew it would be a very big increase, at least until I had a lot of money and was actually driving [insert luxury car here]... hell, I'm not even of legal age to drive our Neon).
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Well this is what happened to this computer. A while back i had problems with it and it wouldnt POST. Before i even knew what the word POST meant i ended up just buying a new cheap motherboard and it was suppose to be temporary. Later i ended up buying a whole new amd64 system which i love! The computer was a sony vaio to begin with. After replacing the Asus motherboard with this $65 Aopen, i noticed the performance of the pc wasn't the same. In certain games i'd get FPS drops that i didn't get before and i mean i could just tell something was wrong. I thought maybe the motherboard is just really not that great and it was giving me the problems, but i highly doubt it.

With my old motherboard, it was an Asus board taht was made specifically for the sony computers and there were no manuals, drives, or bios updates for it. You couldn't get anything for this board. Wasn't even listed on asus site, but i found some forums where people complained about this board not having any options or abilities to access bios. Anyways so far this Aopen board turned out to be just fine, it has many options and surprisingly its good for OC'ing.

I'm almost sure my ram is giving me these performance issues, because of my experience from the past with ram. I've seen what pc2700 and pc3200 does to certain systems and i noticed a big difference oddly. Also let me mention that when i had this system up and running fine with the Asus motherboard, i tried to add a stick of 512mb Corsair pc2700 XMS ram to it and i ended up returning it because it ran my computer like CRAP. It ran much better with the generic (or w/e it is) ram the computer came with in the 2x512mb setup, so i didn't bother with it and left it as it was. Now that the system is basically a whole new computer since i changed teh case, motherboard, VGA, cd rom drives, and now maybe the ram, i'm thinking that with this new setup the pc3200 will solve my problem.

Like you said though ts3433, i might want to try to get a hold of some pc3200 ram first and make sure that will solve my issue, if not then i don't know why i would get worse peformance after changing the motherboard. I can understand certain boards are better than others and do contribute to performance, but i'm losing too much and i think its beyond the motherboard swap.

Say it turns out it was the ram that was bottlenecking the cpu, what would you guys recommend?

Thanks for all the help, i truely appreciate it :)

-Ayman
 
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ribbon13

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The ram I suggest earlier certainly wouldn't degrade performance. And if you do get a new motherboard/cpu, it's highly reccomend for budget AMD64 setups.
 
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ayman

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
The ram I suggest earlier certainly wouldn't degrade performance. And if you do get a new motherboard/cpu, it's highly reccomend for budget AMD64 setups.
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I never said it would degrade performance, i'm just asking if you think 1GB is worth it for gaming as opposed to 512mb? Its not going to be running Doom3.

Also i'm going to keep that particular computer the same. I'm only thinking of upgrading the ram. :)

-Ayman
 
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ribbon13

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Thats a topic about 1GB vs 512mb on the front page. likely within 3 posts of this one at the time of this writing.
 
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ayman

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Well ribbon, i clearly started out my post asking what kind of value ram is good? I provided one link and asked if it was good? I also stated i want 512mb.

You gave me a link for 1GB ram, so then i figured maybe you were hinting that 1gb would be more sufficient. Obviously 1gb is better than 512mb, but i said only want 512 and then asked you if 1gb worth getting over the 512 because of the link you gave me. I also said this computer is used for mostly games.

Anything esle or can we get back on topic?

Thanks,

Ayman
 
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ribbon13

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And I provided a hint that consensus of the thread I referenced was YES. 1gb is better for gaming. Some games you wouldn't think would require that much ram, use a lot. Like the Sims 2. What games to you play?
 
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ayman

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uhh my brother mainly uses that computer, he plays games like counter strike, day of defeat, need for speed underground, maybe some counter strike source (i know it wont handle it at top notch), call of duty. Games like those. No Doom3 and not much of HL2.

From reading that other thread it seems like everyone's saying that performance isn't a big issue with 512mb vs 1gb, but some have said that the "studderring" went away when they upgraded to 1gb in HL2. But in my case i'm guessing 512 should be enough, dont you think ribbon? Anyways would you go with teh corsair or something else?

Thanks again,

Ayman :)
 
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