is this good or what???

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akira34

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I vote for the "or what"...

Tt processor cooling products don't rank very well by many people that use aftermarket coolers. Thermaright fairs MUCH better, as does Zalman... Reviewing what people say on these boards should give you a better idea as to how they feel about different products.

Personally, I'd rather get a processor cooler made by a company that has such products as their primary (if not only) product. That allows them to concentrate on it and do it right. Would you purchase a tv from a company that makes toasters as their main product??
 
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that thing looks like a space ship or something...
it has twice as many heatpipes as the sp-94 which is a plus, but it will prob not cool as well as the top 5 or so coolers out there
but my guess is it can be setup to run quiet and steal yeild good temps (with a 120mm fan or something it would prob rock)
i wonder if there are any heatpipe heatsink reviews out there

also that thing is heavy make sure yur motherboard is mounted down good
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akira34

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Why are you looking at Tt coolers?? Haven't you heard of either Thermalright or Zalman?? I'd go with either Thermalright or Zalman long before I get a thermaltake cooler...
 
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Algere

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No personal opinion but a suggestion. Unless you have air currents (i.e. side panel fan) blowing through it, I wouldn't get it.

Personally with around $45 I'd rather get a Thermalright XP-90 w/ silent fan or a Zalman CNPS7700-ALCU.
 
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get teh thermaltake CE 50XMS heat sink. Sure it's only made in Hong Kong but man oh man that puppy has two 120mm fans, and resembles COOLER MASTERS' humungous CPU heatsink series 6! LOOK ON EBAY MY FRIEND!
 
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essasin

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id suggest getting a thermalright and the zalman is also a popular choice. In general stay away from Thermaltakes becasuse they are pretty loud and dont do as well as a job as thermalright
 
BonzaiDuck

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First off, I use ThermalRight XP120 and XP90. I gave up the use of a ThermalTake PIPE101 -- every bit as good as the Zalman CNPS-7000 in performance, and better for the PIPE's lighter weight. But the ThermalRights weigh another 200 grams less, and cool just as well.

Second, some ThermalTake products have been given a bad rap because of other ThermalTake products, the language problem in aggressive marketing displays ["High CFM fan for greater air pleasure" means "greater air pressure" :laugh:], gawdy colors, and so on. And further, tech-support at ThermalTake is very responsive, with personal approaches to e-mail questions.

Third, I was watching the FANLESS 103 for a while last year. The heatpipes and fins are bound to be pretty light, and the overall assembly is lighter than the Zalman CNPS 7000. If you can find a quiet 120mm fan to deploy just behind the fins, or even focused downward on them, the assembly promises a respectable, maybe even stunning level of effectiveness. My problem is only that I have yet to encounter comparison reviews with other products, and given the concept of the cooler, there is some very good chance that nobody will post such comparison reviews because the performance of the FANLESS 103 might be so stunning as to seriously embarrass the competition.

For me, I would've tried it if I had known that it would be released when I undertook my case-mod toward building this system. But I had no idea or vision of such a thing, and I'm not simply going to mod my case to install a 120mm fan in the desired position just for a change of CPU cooler. With my XP120, my temps are between 80F idle and 102F load at 70F room with a YS-TEch 120mm fan -- a very quiet fan for its high throughput.

If you have a place for a 120mm fan behind the FANLESS 103's heatsink fins, or you can conveniently mod the case before doing the build, I'd say -- give it a try.
 
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Originally posted by: akira34
I vote for the "or what"...

Tt processor cooling products don't rank very well by many people that use aftermarket coolers. Thermaright fairs MUCH better, as does Zalman... Reviewing what people say on these boards should give you a better idea as to how they feel about different products.

Personally, I'd rather get a processor cooler made by a company that has such products as their primary (if not only) product. That allows them to concentrate on it and do it right. Would you purchase a tv from a company that makes toasters as their main product??
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Agreed forget Thermaltake. Alpha, Zalman, and Thermalright the ones to check out.
 
BonzaiDuck

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Well, the proof is in the numbers and the care taken to control the experiments.

I did this in comparing the PIPE101 to the CNPS-7000-Cu, and other reviews in late 2003 had done comparisons between the TT Spark 7+ and the Zalman. The TT coolers worked every bit as well as the Zalman, but the Spark 7+ with its 70mm 6,000 rpm fan makes it a loser except at the state school for the deaf. With the PIPE101, you definitely have some fan choices, and some superior to the Zalman proprietary fan, because you can put a 120mm fan with a 120-to-92mm fan adapter on that puppy.

But if there is any lessons to be learned it is these. "Heatpipes work." And -- "A heatpipe by any other name of scorn is still a heatpipe."
 
BonzaiDuck

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Here is my summary pontification:

The Pros of the FANLESS 103 are that it simply applies successful heatpipe technology with bigger heatpipes and more fins, which will , obviously, dissipate more heat per unit of time. Further, you need not add to the weight of the sucker by hanging a fan on the heatsink assembly, provided your case can fit a 120mm low-noise fan right behind the fins to exhaust air through the fins and out the case.

The Cons of the FANLESS 103 are that it requires removal of the motherboard, and these are the same problems I note with some ThermalRight and Zalman coolers. Further, the Fanless 103 only weighs in at 25 grams less than the Zalman. An advantage of both some ThermalTake and ThermalRight coolers is that they use "clip-on" retention mechanisms with the stock motherboard HSF bracket, with sturdy, reliable clips that nevertheless allow for "in-the-case" installation. Other TT as well as ThermalRight coolers require "bolt-on" retention mechanisms and motherboard removal. I cannot remember if this was the case with the CNPS-7000-Cu/AlCu Zalman coolers, but I know it is the case with the CNPS-7700-Cu cooler.

If you are worried about the weight, stay away from either the Zalman or the FAnless 103 and go for a ThermalRight XP120 or XP90. According to some user reviews -- and apparently (although I will check again) there is a dearth of "real" reviews and tests -- with the right fan deployment you can expect the Fanless 103 to really clamp down the load temperatures. The review I read noted a decrease in load values from 50C-plus to 35C. The buyer said he had used two 80mm fans, but a single 120mm, as suggested by ThermalTake's own web-pages, promises to be virtually noiseless. This is nothing to sneeze at.

But -- whether the "over-clocking" community has given thumbs-down to Thermaltake -- is a matter of complete indifference to me. Show me the numbers, show me the reviews, and if not that, I wouldn't hesitate to try the product if I had had successful experience with similar coolers, or even other heatpipe coolers by the same manufacturer.
 
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Algere

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If you are worried about the weight, stay away from either the Zalman or the FAnless 103 and go for a ThermalRight XP120 or XP90.
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Well...

Based on stats @ TR & Zalman's site
370g (XP-120) + 270g (120mm fan) = 640g
Zalman 7700-AlCu (HS + 120mm fan) = 600g
360g (XP-90) + 110g (92mm fan) = 470g
 
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