Is this for real?

[daniel1113]

The government has every right to guarantee that only current legal citizens of the US participate in elections, and this would be a simple way of doing it. That's a good enough reason for me.

:thumbsdown: to non-citizens participating in elections.

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
This country seems to be going down the sh!tter and no one seems to notice or care. It sucks, but it's true.

No we care, but we are too fat and lazy to do anything about. Lets just keep electing congressmen and senators who have corp interests in mind and not our own. We flip out about the president, but he has no power compared to congress and the senate. Lets focus where we are losing our freedoms, not at some second rate chimp.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: PHiuR

Originally posted by: Skoorb
God, at least if you're going to whine know what you're whining about. Every citizen in this country already has a unique number: It's called a social security number. Further, go get a speeding ticket by a cop and find out if you can get away with "hiding your identity". No, sir, you can't, and he's going to want to know who you are. We already all have some form of unique ID (theoretically), so picture this as a national driver's license if it makes you sleep better at night.

If we already have it then why do we need a new one? to let the nation catagorize us more?

See post above yours.

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
hm, i'm sure boxer and feinstein will take care of it.

Sure they will.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: sourceninja

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
This country seems to be going down the sh!tter and no one seems to notice or care. It sucks, but it's true.

No we care, but we are too fat and lazy to do anything about. Lets just keep electing congressmen and senators who have corp interests in mind and not our own. We flip out about the president, but he has no power compared to congress and the senate. Lets focus where we are losing our freedoms, not at some second rate chimp.

Bullcrap nobody here cares. I--oh, CRAP, did you see that this denny's pub has a 15 lb burger? ROAD TRIP!!!

 

[PHiuR]

i agree with the fact that if all ID's looked the same it would be easier for other states to ID people.

question is if this is good for the nation 100% shouldnt it not have a problem being passed? why does he have to piggy-back it.

edit: we as people of the nation should question everything. and that is why i am bringing this discussion here.

 

[FoBoT]

i have a passport, does that make me a bad person?

 

[wbresson]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: wbresson
sounds fine to me, take off the tin foil hats people, its just a card

"take off the tin hats people its just a computer chip under your skin"

where does it stop?

if they do it and you don't like it then move, its actually a decently simple cocept, you elected those congressmen, if the majority of those congressmen say to do something, then you do it, if you don't like what they vote for, you don't vote for them and if the majority feels the same way they won't be back in office

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
i have a passport, does that make me a bad person?

Big Brother is watching you.

 

[Appledrop]

They are talking (and i think set to be implementing shortly) ID cards here in the UK. It has the potential to be a good crime cutter, but further diminishes any feelings of freedom in modern society. A comprimise i suppose.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: IamElectro
These ID cards would not be in effect until 3 years after the law was put into effect..

So? What's your point???

 

[PHiuR]

Originally posted by: Azzy64
They are talking (and i think set to be implementing shortly) ID cards here in the UK. It has the potential to be a good crime cutter, but further diminishes any feelings of freedom in modern society. A comprimise i suppose.

well put.. i think thats how i feel about these cards.

 

[Merlyn3D]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
This country seems to be going down the sh!tter and no one seems to notice or care. It sucks, but it's true.

Oh i notice and care but our government has grown some huge balls because they have noticed that they can fvck us and others of the world and nothing we can do other then bend over and take it. We have no way really to combat the government and dont give me this we can vote bs because that doesnt matter. The government will do what they want to do or make a law allowing them to do it. As long as the fat cats get fatter fvck the people that made them that way.

This is so so sad and so so true. Sigh.

 

[elektrolokomotive]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
where is the American Criminal Liberties Union when we need them?

defending NAMBLA!

what's wrong with that?

 

[Rogue]

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
where is the American Criminal Liberties Union when we need them?

defending NAMBLA!

what's wrong with that?

You're kidding, right? Do you know what NAMBLA's agenda is?

 

[PHiuR]

Originally posted by: Rogue

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
where is the American Criminal Liberties Union when we need them?

defending NAMBLA!

what's wrong with that?

You're kidding, right? Do you know what NAMBLA's agenda is?

do you think he's the man or the boy?

 

[Malak]

Everyone carries a piece of plastic around with them already, why are people throwing a fit over one that will undoubtedly replace it?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
where is the American Criminal Liberties Union when we need them?

defending NAMBLA!

what's wrong with that?

If you aren't kidding...D I A F!!! :|

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: wbresson
sounds fine to me, take off the tin foil hats people, its just a card

"take off the tin hats people its just a computer chip under your skin"

where does it stop?

i didn't see that piece about implants anywhere...I must be using a different jump to conclusions mat (or not using enough tin foil)...

 

[elektrolokomotive]

Originally posted by: Rogue

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
where is the American Criminal Liberties Union when we need them?

defending NAMBLA!

what's wrong with that?

You're kidding, right? Do you know what NAMBLA's agenda is?

Check your sarcasm detector.

 

[MetalMat]

There are some things I dont want to put on there, like my religion.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: MetalMat
There are some things I dont want to put on there, like my religion.

Why? Don't have the guts to tell people what you believe?

 

[MetalMat]

Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos

Originally posted by: MetalMat
There are some things I dont want to put on there, like my religion.

Why? Don't have the guts to tell people what you believe?

I just dont like discussing it. I mean I am open to the fact that I am christian, but then people might label you and expect you to act a certain way. Who gives a fvck what religion I am, or anybody's is to that point. Thats that persons own business. All talking about religion does is make people mad at each other in past experiences.

 

[EpsiIon]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: EpsiIon
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Only one thing confuses me: why does this guy want national ID cards so badly? Does he really think it will improve the country? Does he have a financial stake in the concept? This seems like legislation for the sake of legislation; it doesn't come from any sort of need. Everybody should be fighting it for this reason alone. No matter what your political affiliation, can't we all agree that needless bloat is bad?

do you actually think that the woman checking ID at the ticket counter in the atlanta airport has any idea what a real south dakota DL looks like?

I think she does after the first time she sees one. My question: Is this a large enough issue to warrant the time and resources it requires? AKA, do we need this? Unequivocally, no. That's why it's "needless bloat."

 

[BriGy86]

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
This country seems to be going down the sh!tter and no one seems to notice or care. It sucks, but it's true.

Oh i notice and care but our government has grown some huge balls because they have noticed that they can fvck us and others of the world and nothing we can do other then bend over and take it. We have no way really to combat the government and dont give me this we can vote bs because that doesnt matter. The government will do what they want to do or make a law allowing them to do it. As long as the fat cats get fatter fvck the people that made them that way.

This is so so sad and so so true. Sigh.

*jumps on the bandwagon*

but seriously, i agree completely

it seems every year that the governement tries to find new ways to fvck people over

why are they able to combine laws like this? the fact that the senators are forced to either allow BOTH laws or deny BOTH laws is bullsh!t

what does a national ID card have to do with financing the troops? they need to reform this lil loophole

but on the other hand if it would help keep illegals from voting and/or keep them out of the country all together that would be a VERY good thing i think