Is this battery charger overkill for my uses?

cardiac

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Don't know where you live, Sawyer, but this charger will be able to jump your vehicle in a few minutes if it won't turn over in frigid weather. Looks like a decent charger.
 

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Lifer
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Yeah I thought that would come in handy. I have a bad habit of leaving my lights on my Honda and they don't shut off automatically.
 

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Lifer
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I wonder if any at Wal-Mart at this range or cheaper does, could you give me.the amazon reviews link?
 

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My motorcycle battery had to be boosted the last time I rode it and I want a charger for future use
 

tortillasoup

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My motorcycle battery had to be boosted the last time I rode it and I want a charger for future use

You might be better off with a battery tender of sorts. a 25a charger is far too powerful for a tiny motorcycle battery.

I suggest this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/351178506949?lpid=82

Keep the charger on the battery and it will increase its lifespan by not only preventing further sulfation but will go the extra step of desulfating it. It's also temperature compensated.
 

Zenmervolt

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a 25a charger is far too powerful for a tiny motorcycle battery.

An automatic charger, like the one the OP listed, will be intelligent enough not to use a 25 amp charge for a motorcycle battery. The charger the OP listed will do no damage whatsoever to a motorcycle battery because it has a 3 amp mode as well.

The charger the OP listed will not be suitable for leaving connected all the time, but it will be perfectly fine for the occasional recharging or for the initial charging of a brand-new battery.

As for buying a maintainer, the OP should buy one from a reputable store, not some rando off of eBay. That way he'll have support if it fails.

ZV
 

tortillasoup

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An automatic charger, like the one the OP listed, will be intelligent enough not to use a 25 amp charge for a motorcycle battery. The charger the OP listed will do no damage whatsoever to a motorcycle battery because it has a 3 amp mode as well.

The charger the OP listed will not be suitable for leaving connected all the time, but it will be perfectly fine for the occasional recharging or for the initial charging of a brand-new battery.

As for buying a maintainer, the OP should buy one from a reputable store, not some rando off of eBay. That way he'll have support if it fails.

ZV
That batteryminder 1500 warranty is through the factory. To register a warranty, you just sign up through VDC electronics' website and it's a 5 year warranty. They're pretty lax on their standards for warranting their chargers.
 

LTC8K6

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The Stanley chargers do have Motorcyle and maintainer modes. They should be fine for any purpose.
 

y2kse

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I bought this one a couple weeks ago to tend the battery in my Altima (that I don't drive much during winter). There's also a lower-amp version that's also a little less expensive.
 

jagec

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A reviewer at Amazon said this charger does not support the 14.4V charging voltage specified for some AGM batteries, and it's possible all car batteries will become AGM in the next few years.

AGM for your average run-of-the-mill car battery is a waste.
 

Zenmervolt

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That batteryminder 1500 warranty is through the factory. To register a warranty, you just sign up through VDC electronics' website and it's a 5 year warranty. They're pretty lax on their standards for warranting their chargers.

All warranties are through the factory.

But it's a crap-ton more convenient to go through a reputable business and just exchange it immediately with no effort than to go through the hassle of dealing with:

1) Registering the product online (and getting put on mailing lists and phone lists).
2) Phoning the company to get an RMA.
3) Paying for shipping back to the company.
4) Waiting a week or two while the company decides whether or not the failure is warrantable.
5) Waiting another week or two for the company to ship a replacement.

If the OP buys through a store he will be able to avoid the cost and time waste if something's wrong or a piece is missing from the package. Hell, even Amazon will at least give you a free shipping label if you need to return a defective item as opposed to your situation where the OP would have to pay for shipping.

eBay is great for finding discontinued things that are difficult or impossible to find in stores. It's not, however, a good substitute for a reputable business with convenient return policies.

Batteryminder 1500 is a better value, that's old style crap.

The BatteryTender Plus (which is what is in jagec's link) is temperature compensated and has exactly the same features as the BatteryMinder 1500. The only difference is brand. I swear to god, it's like you're on commission from the BatteryMinder people.

And even the non-compensated regular "BatteryTender" (non-"Plus" models) are far from "crap." They easily double the expected life of motorcycle batteries even without temp compensation. While adding temperature compensation on top of the basic float charging might get another 8 months or so on top of that, the vast majority of the benefit is captured with a simple float charger.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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A reviewer at Amazon said this charger does not support the 14.4V charging voltage specified for some AGM batteries, and it's possible all car batteries will become AGM in the next few years.

That same review claims the bulk charge mode is 14.8 volts. While not ideal for AGM, it's not going to wreck them.

The reviewer mistakenly assumes that the 14.8 volt choice is to prevent stratification in the electrolyte. This is false. While applying a high voltage (typically well over 15 volts) for a VERY SHORT time is indeed the process for avoiding stratification, this is never done for more than a few minutes and is not used as a bulk charge mode.

The same reviewer also fails utterly to understand that consumers have not been able to "top off" batteries easily for decades now. The industry went to "maintenance free" flooded cells in the late 1970s/early 1980s and while some of those designs did have caps you could pry up and snap off (which would then allow water to be added) this was not easy and was not something that normally needed to be done.

ZV
 

tortillasoup

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All warranties are through the factory.

But it's a crap-ton more convenient to go through a reputable business and just exchange it immediately with no effort than to go through the hassle of dealing with:

1) Registering the product online (and getting put on mailing lists and phone lists).
2) Phoning the company to get an RMA.
3) Paying for shipping back to the company.
4) Waiting a week or two while the company decides whether or not the failure is warrantable.
5) Waiting another week or two for the company to ship a replacement.

If the OP buys through a store he will be able to avoid the cost and time waste if something's wrong or a piece is missing from the package. Hell, even Amazon will at least give you a free shipping label if you need to return a defective item as opposed to your situation where the OP would have to pay for shipping.

eBay is great for finding discontinued things that are difficult or impossible to find in stores. It's not, however, a good substitute for a reputable business with convenient return policies.
Well, worst comes to worst, a lazy consumer could go into a store and swap the unit. No sales tax, free shipping, that's a big discount and worth it to get it off Ebay. It's a new unit with solid state electronics, it's either going to fail early or it's likely to last a long time.

The BatteryTender Plus (which is what is in jagec's link) is temperature compensated and has exactly the same features as the BatteryMinder 1500. The only difference is brand. I swear to god, it's like you're on commission from the BatteryMinder people.
It doesn't have exactly the same features, it does not feature temperature compensation nor an external probe. True the Batteryminder probe is near the unit, but you can buy an extension probe to go directly to the battery and plug into the Batteryminder unit.
And even the non-compensated regular "BatteryTender" (non-"Plus" models) are far from "crap." They easily double the expected life of motorcycle batteries even without temp compensation. While adding temperature compensation on top of the basic float charging might get another 8 months or so on top of that, the vast majority of the benefit is captured with a simple float charger.

ZV
But why pay more for an inferior unit? If the features were reversed, I'd be recommending the BatteryTender unit instead of the Batteryminder. The Batteryminder is a great unit but all I read here are suggestions for inferior units. It's not about the BatteryTender being good enough, it's about supporting the superior product especially if the cost is the same or less.
 

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Lifer
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I was looking at my box and it says amg, gel and wet. I went back to WM to see the others again, I will either keep the one I have or get this one that is 10 more

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tortillasoup

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I was looking at my box and it says amg, gel and wet. I went back to WM to see the others again, I will either keep the one I have or get this one that is 10 more

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you bought that model? My neighbor bought that exact same one, complete piece of shit. Good luck
 

tortillasoup

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No that is the other one I was looking at. I bought this one
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I have no idea about that one... The problem with using a 3 amp charger on a tiny battery is that even though it's a "smart charger" it will not be capable of fully topping off a small battery like a 1.5amp charger can do. Just something to keep in mind if you want to extend the life of your battery.
 

LTC8K6

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Yes, I would also get a small maintainer for your small batteries.