Is this any good?

mancunian

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Right,


Grateful for any feedback here.

I have an E7200 on a P35 DS3L board. It's now running at 3.4Ghz. I'm sure there's more left in it, but I'm content with it at this speed for now. My games fly and that's all I'm bothered about.

Anyway, vcore set to 1.2v in the BIOS, CPUZ 1.45 shows 1.168v in Windows. Idle temps using RealTemp are 30C for both cores, load temps using OCCT are about 58C for both cores.

I've been an AMD guy for the last 8 or so years, so I'm not so well up on the Intel processors. Searching these and other forums, there don't seem to be any definitive answers on maximum permissible temps for these chips, and voltages that people are using seem to differ enormously. Basically, opinions seem to vary quite a bit.



The question is, are these reasonable temps and voltages? What do people reckon?


Cheers :)


manc
 

Drsignguy

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Yes, nice OC there "mancunian". By the looks of your voltage, it seems that you do have a bit more room. What HS are you using? As for your information that you request, look at this post, it has some very good info that will probably answer your questions.
 

mancunian

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Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Yes, nice OC there "mancunian". By the looks of your voltage, it seems that you do have a bit more room. What HS are you using? As for your information that you request, look at this post, it has some very good info that will probably answer your questions.

ah heck. Trust me not to search today :D I see that thread started yesterday and it was very useful to read. Thank you kindly Drsignguy, that does indeed answer my questions. :)

So, looks like this is ok then. Great.

Using a Freezer 7 Pro, so nothing special there. Gotta love these Intel chips.


Cheers again fella :)


manc
 

mancunian

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I'd say keep it under 1.29, and 70c on the cores using core temp

I see. Well, that's what I intend doing so I'm good there.


Cheers for the reply :)


manc
 

Drsignguy

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Originally posted by: mancunian
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Yes, nice OC there "mancunian". By the looks of your voltage, it seems that you do have a bit more room. What HS are you using? As for your information that you request, look at this post, it has some very good info that will probably answer your questions.

ah heck. Trust me not to search today :D I see that thread started yesterday and it was very useful to read. Thank you kindly Drsignguy, that does indeed answer my questions. :)

So, looks like this is ok then. Great.

Using a Freezer 7 Pro, so nothing special there. Gotta love these Intel chips.


Cheers again fella :)


manc




Not a problem and enjoy! :beer:

 

error8

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Originally posted by: mancunian
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I'd say keep it under 1.29, and 70c on the cores using core temp

I see. Well, that's what I intend doing so I'm good there.


Cheers for the reply :)


manc

I have it at 3,9 ghz with 1,4 V in bios, 1,34 full load at 60 C RealTemp ( load ). Someone else on these forums is running it at 4 ghz at under 1,3 V!!!

Be careful though, is better to play it safe and keep it bellow 1,36 V ( maximum voltage for this chip as Intel states ).
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I'd say keep it under 1.29


Intel's own spec is 1.3625 for Wolfdales. Not sure where you got 1.29......

Safety First



If you think that staying at 1.29 unstead of 1.35 would give you a noticeable distance in cpu lifespan, or "safety", I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.
 

ShawnD1

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.
I'll take it



I'd say keep it under 1.29, and 70c
70C is too hot. Intel processors underclock themselves at that temperature, and Athlon XP processors would crash at 70 (60 was stable). I'm not too worried about the CPU itself, but I know motherboards die very quickly when they're hot, especially the capacitors in the CPU area.
 
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I'd say keep it under 1.29


Intel's own spec is 1.3625 for Wolfdales. Not sure where you got 1.29......

Safety First



If you think that staying at 1.29 unstead of 1.35 would give you a noticeable distance in cpu lifespan, or "safety", I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.

yeah, i already have a nice beach front house in AZ :D - what else do you got :p
 

toadeater

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I'd say keep it under 1.29


Intel's own spec is 1.3625 for Wolfdales. Not sure where you got 1.29......

Does Intel mean 1.3625 total, or after vdroop? For 3.8GHz I have to set it to 1.3625 just to get ~1.29 after vdroop. It idles at 1.32v. To actually have it at 1.3625v, I'd have to set it to ~1.4v in the BIOS.
 

error8

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Originally posted by: toadeater
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I'd say keep it under 1.29


Intel's own spec is 1.3625 for Wolfdales. Not sure where you got 1.29......

Does Intel mean 1.3625 total, or after vdroop? For 3.8GHz I have to set it to 1.3625 just to get ~1.29 after vdroop. It idles at 1.32v. To actually have it at 1.3625v, I'd have to set it to ~1.4v in the BIOS.

Well I don't think that there is anybody that knows what Intel wants to say with this voltage. It can mean a lot of things like you've said. I personally take this as the voltage under load reported by cpu-z.
 

Drsignguy

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Well of coarse it all depends on the chip too. If say you wanted to have an 3.2 oc and you needed to ramp up the voltage to say 1.42v to get your clock, but only had to up the voltage to 1.3625v to get an oc to 3.1, well I would be safe to say I would prefer to stay at the lower of the two. This is only speculation of the voltages but I am sure you all know whats going on. Not all chips like to play. ;)
 

Serradifalco

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Originally posted by: mancunian
Right,


Grateful for any feedback here.

I have an E7200 on a P35 DS3L board. It's now running at 3.4Ghz. I'm sure there's more left in it, but I'm content with it at this speed for now. My games fly and that's all I'm bothered about.

Anyway, vcore set to 1.2v in the BIOS, CPUZ 1.45 shows 1.168v in Windows. Idle temps using RealTemp are 30C for both cores, load temps using OCCT are about 58C for both cores.

I've been an AMD guy for the last 8 or so years, so I'm not so well up on the Intel processors. Searching these and other forums, there don't seem to be any definitive answers on maximum permissible temps for these chips, and voltages that people are using seem to differ enormously. Basically, opinions seem to vary quite a bit.



The question is, are these reasonable temps and voltages? What do people reckon?


Cheers :)


manc

At 1.2375v in the bios, I had mine stable at 3.8Ghz. Now I have it currently stable at 3.9Ghz at 1.275v in the bios. For the latter speed, however, I had to bump my fsb voltage by 0.2v. I have taken my time doing it as I want the maximum oc with the lowest possible voltage. I have a total of 5 fans in my cm 690 now! 2 intake(1-120mm, 1-140mm) and 3 exaust(1-120mm and 2-140mm). Things stay nice and cool all the way around. As long as you have good cooling, keep pushing it. This chip loves pain!

Congrats on your new chip. You are in for a wild and exciting ride! :beer::beer:
 

mancunian

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Originally posted by: Serradifalco
At 1.2375v in the bios, I had mine stable at 3.8Ghz. Now I have it currently stable at 3.9Ghz at 1.275v in the bios. For the latter speed, however, I had to bump my fsb voltage by 0.2v. I have taken my time doing it as I want the maximum oc with the lowest possible voltage. I have a total of 5 fans in my cm 690 now! 2 intake(1-120mm, 1-140mm) and 3 exaust(1-120mm and 2-140mm). Things stay nice and cool all the way around. As long as you have good cooling, keep pushing it. This chip loves pain!

Congrats on your new chip. You are in for a wild and exciting ride! :beer::beer:

Thanks. :)

I've now settled for 3.6Ghz as this thing stays fairly cool at a similar voltage to yours. I like this overclock because it's a 1:1, 9 x 400 overclock and the 1:1 seems to run much better than the others. And this Gigabyte board has absolutely no problem with an effective FSB of 1600Mhz.

I also paired up this chip with a Radeon HD4850 as well today.

Needless to say, I've had a great day of gaming.


For the price, these E7200 chips rock totally, although much credit has also to be given to Gigabyte for making such a great board, Corsair for making such great PSUs and AMD for the cheap yet effective graphics card.

A good combo.


:cool:
 

mancunian

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Originally posted by: toadeater
Mancunian, what voltage settings do you have for MCH, PCIe & FSB?

All at default. Thought I had a problem with those at one point, so I upped 'em. Turned out the PCI-E frequency had found its way back to the 'auto' setting, once set to 100 I had no problems.

The only voltage I've upped is the vcore, which is at 1.216 according to CPU-Z.