Is this another example of right wing hypocrisy?

RightIsWrong

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Senators: Mrs. Roberts' Work Not Relevant

WASHINGTON - Free legal work that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts' wife does for an anti-abortion group should not be a factor in his confirmation, a Senate Republican leader said Monday, following up similar comments by Democrat Edward M. Kennedy.

Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said Jane Roberts' work for Feminists for Life is irrelevant to the process and to how her husband might decide cases if seated on the high court.

"My wife has opinions on things that may or may not conform with mine, and I think most couples are in that situation," Santorum, a conservative who is third among Senate Republican leaders and an outspoken abortion opponent, told NBC's "Today" show.

"And so I don't think your wife's activities should have any impact on what a judge is going to do," he added. "I certainly would think that he would tell you they don't, nor should they. It's the facts of a case and the law of a case."

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Now, my question is, weren't there a bunch of righties spewing how terrible it would be if Kerry was elected because of HIS WIFE'S beliefs? What was her nickname......Teresa the Terrible?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Senators: Mrs. Roberts' Work Not Relevant

WASHINGTON - Free legal work that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts' wife does for an anti-abortion group should not be a factor in his confirmation, a Senate Republican leader said Monday, following up similar comments by Democrat Edward M. Kennedy.

Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said Jane Roberts' work for Feminists for Life is irrelevant to the process and to how her husband might decide cases if seated on the high court.

"My wife has opinions on things that may or may not conform with mine, and I think most couples are in that situation," Santorum, a conservative who is third among Senate Republican leaders and an outspoken abortion opponent, told NBC's "Today" show.

"And so I don't think your wife's activities should have any impact on what a judge is going to do," he added. "I certainly would think that he would tell you they don't, nor should they. It's the facts of a case and the law of a case."

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Now, my question is, weren't there a bunch of righties spewing how terrible it would be if Kerry was elected because of HIS WIFE'S beliefs? What was her nickname......Teresa the Terrible?

I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.

But I can assure you she had nothing to do with me not voting for Kerry :D

As for this issue, I dont think what his wife does in her free time is much of a consideration for the job. The last time I checked she wasnt nominated for the position. If Bush thought her qualified he would have nominated her.

Since she isnt being considered for the position what is the point of bringing her into the equation?

I know where the democrats are going with this but they dont want to say they have a "litmus" test because the voters are sick of their nitpicking.

 
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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Senators: Mrs. Roberts' Work Not Relevant

WASHINGTON - Free legal work that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts' wife does for an anti-abortion group should not be a factor in his confirmation, a Senate Republican leader said Monday, following up similar comments by Democrat Edward M. Kennedy.

Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said Jane Roberts' work for Feminists for Life is irrelevant to the process and to how her husband might decide cases if seated on the high court.

"My wife has opinions on things that may or may not conform with mine, and I think most couples are in that situation," Santorum, a conservative who is third among Senate Republican leaders and an outspoken abortion opponent, told NBC's "Today" show.

"And so I don't think your wife's activities should have any impact on what a judge is going to do," he added. "I certainly would think that he would tell you they don't, nor should they. It's the facts of a case and the law of a case."

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Now, my question is, weren't there a bunch of righties spewing how terrible it would be if Kerry was elected because of HIS WIFE'S beliefs? What was her nickname......Teresa the Terrible?
Proof? Links?

Didn't Kerry's wife get a bit wacky and go off on a little potty-mouthed rant? Even JK felt it necessary to tuck her out of sight in the last month.

And what were her beliefs?

 

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I actually agree with the majority of your reply. I don't think that her career should have any bearing on the appointment process.

The intent was to point out that the standards seem to shift with the wind in regards to issues/standards from both sides. It seems that the left is consistantly made out to be the "flip-floppers" and this goes to show that it is political nature, not party affiliation that dictates this trend to be true from all.
 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Senators: Mrs. Roberts' Work Not Relevant

WASHINGTON - Free legal work that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts' wife does for an anti-abortion group should not be a factor in his confirmation, a Senate Republican leader said Monday, following up similar comments by Democrat Edward M. Kennedy.

Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said Jane Roberts' work for Feminists for Life is irrelevant to the process and to how her husband might decide cases if seated on the high court.

"My wife has opinions on things that may or may not conform with mine, and I think most couples are in that situation," Santorum, a conservative who is third among Senate Republican leaders and an outspoken abortion opponent, told NBC's "Today" show.

"And so I don't think your wife's activities should have any impact on what a judge is going to do," he added. "I certainly would think that he would tell you they don't, nor should they. It's the facts of a case and the law of a case."

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Now, my question is, weren't there a bunch of righties spewing how terrible it would be if Kerry was elected because of HIS WIFE'S beliefs? What was her nickname......Teresa the Terrible?

I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.

But I can assure you she had nothing to do with me not voting for Kerry :D

As for this issue, I dont think what his wife does in her free time is much of a consideration for the job. The last time I checked she wasnt nominated for the position. If Bush thought her qualified he would have nominated her.

Since she isnt being considered for the position what is the point of bringing her into the equation?

I know where the democrats are going with this but they dont want to say they have a "litmus" test because the voters are sick of their nitpicking.

"Looked like a drunk..."
OK, and she's crude?
Is this another example of right wing hypocrisy?
There's plenty in the first response.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I actually agree with the majority of your reply. I don't think that her career should have any bearing on the appointment process.

The intent was to point out that the standards seem to shift with the wind in regards to issues/standards from both sides. It seems that the left is consistantly made out to be the "flip-floppers" and this goes to show that it is political nature, not party affiliation that dictates this trend to be true from all.

Maybe but I honestly dont remember caring about her politics much and or making them out for a litmus test to not elect John Kerry. In fact I couldnt tell you anything about her except she was really rude, crude, and obnoxious.

John Kerrys politics is what kept me from voting for him and probably 99.9999% of all the people who didnt vote for him.
 

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I actually agree with the majority of your reply. I don't think that her career should have any bearing on the appointment process.

The intent was to point out that the standards seem to shift with the wind in regards to issues/standards from both sides. It seems that the left is consistantly made out to be the "flip-floppers" and this goes to show that it is political nature, not party affiliation that dictates this trend to be true from all.
I thought it was the abortion supporting feminists that went on and tried to fight for how a woman can be an independent thinker from her husband. What changed now?
 

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Personally I want the SC nominee to be impartial to any sort of bias, unfortunately with Roberts, his history and personal beliefs are unknown. If we can read potential motives through other parts of his life, I agree with that as the last thing we need is unfair rulings for years to come.

That being said, the Kerry/Roberts examples are different as Robert's wife is not out there politicizing herself (not that i know of), whereas Kerry had his wife campaigning, speaking, helping directly with the campaign. No worse in my opinion than the Rove/Bush relationship...minus, the marriage part of course ;)
 

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Now, my question is, weren't there a bunch of righties spewing how terrible it would be if Kerry was elected because of HIS WIFE'S beliefs? What was her nickname......Teresa the Terrible?

IMHO there is a significant difference between being a spouse of a SCOTUS judge and being the "First Lady".

In all my life I've never heard a peep out a spouse of a judge, but I do get tired of hearing First Ladies spout various drivel. Nacy Reagan and Hillary Clinton come to mind.
 

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Originally posted by: Genx87

I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.

How dare you talk that way about what would have been the first African American first lady. Are you a racist?



 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.

How dare you talk that way about what would have been the first African American first lady. Are you a racist?
WTF? :confused:

I think you may have a screw loose there bud...
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.

How dare you talk that way about what would have been the first African American first lady. Are you a racist?
WTF? :confused:

I think you may have a screw loose there bud...

Look at his name.
 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.

How dare you talk that way about what would have been the first African American first lady. Are you a racist?
WTF? :confused:

I think you may have a screw loose there bud...
Theresa Heinz Kerry was born in Africa. Ergo, if Kerry had won (and he may have,) we would have had the first African American first lady.
 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.

How dare you talk that way about what would have been the first African American first lady. Are you a racist?
WTF? :confused:

I think you may have a screw loose there bud...


But Heinz-Kerry claims to be more than just a friend. According to the Washington D.C.-based organization People of Color United, the aspiring First Lady claims to be one of us.

?I?m an African-American,? Heinz-Kerry said in February of this year, according to ads released by the organization, which subsequently put out a press release calling her claim of being an African-American a stretch.


"wtf" right back to you. Do you hate her because she is black, too?

 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont recall many caring about Heinz. The only thing I saw was her making waves with everybody. The chick was plain crude and looked like a drunk.
How dare you talk that way about what would have been the first African American first lady. Are you a racist?
WTF? :confused:
I think you may have a screw loose there bud...
Theresa Heinz Kerry was born in Africa. Ergo, if Kerry had won (and he may have,) we would have had the first African American first lady.
My comment was not in reference to Theresa, but to the racism card. I don't understand how he can be a self proclaimed bush basher and Genx87 makes one criticism of Theresa and it's racism. So we can only criticize white people now?

Come on people...:p

PS. BushBasha: where did I say I hated her?...Get your bloody facts straight.
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Stunt

Genx87 makes one criticism of Theresa and it's racism.

As the title suggests, this is "another example of right-wing hypocrisy." Genx87 can say that African Americans look like they are drunk and crude, yet I am the bad guy? I don't understand you guys from "them there" red states.



 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Stunt

Genx87 makes one criticism of Theresa and it's racism.
As the title suggests, this is "another example of right-wing hypocrisy." Genx87 can say that African Americans look like they are drunk and crude, yet I am the bad guy? I don't understand you guys from "them there" red states.
What?!
You are obviously starting crap with people with absolutely no basis for your claims...you are going to get a warning or something...

By any chance are you the freshly banned RobCur?...your english skills are about on par...
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Stunt

Genx87 makes one criticism of Theresa and it's racism.

As the title suggests, this is "another example of right-wing hypocrisy." Genx87 can say that African Americans look like they are drunk and crude, yet I am the bad guy? I don't understand you guys from "them there" red states.

You are off the deep end associating me thinking she looks like she has been sipping the boones farm for the past 6 hours because she is African American. And then going so far as to suggest I am saying all African Americans are drunks.

btw she may have been borne there but something tells me by the look of her that her parents werent native.

Race card has nothing to do with my comments but nice try.
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Stunt So we can only criticize white people now?


Ahhh, I get it now. I looked at the last link in your signature and your 'blog' has a URL of http://whitelaw......

Seems there are two different sets of laws in your world of apartheid, right? One that applies to whites; the other for the lawless, crude, drunk African Americans? To quote the uber grand dragon of WhiteLaw in this thread, "wtf?"



 

Stunt

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BushBasha, yeah...you got me...I'm a White Supremacist...
Damn you are a swift one, can't hide anything from you.

Here I thought i could hide my allegences by mysteriously putting my motives in my blog address, but no...you rose to the occasion and set things straight.

HEY EVERYBODY I'M A RACIST!

:roll:
 

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Good. We need more women like her. We have enough of these Steppford Wife conservatives.

Reporter: "So, Mrs. Bush, what do you think about abortion?"

Mrs. Bush: "I don't know. George?"

President Bush: "She thinks it's a breakdown in family values. She'll take your next question now."


Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I actually agree with the majority of your reply. I don't think that her career should have any bearing on the appointment process.

The intent was to point out that the standards seem to shift with the wind in regards to issues/standards from both sides. It seems that the left is consistantly made out to be the "flip-floppers" and this goes to show that it is political nature, not party affiliation that dictates this trend to be true from all.

Maybe but I honestly dont remember caring about her politics much and or making them out for a litmus test to not elect John Kerry. In fact I couldnt tell you anything about her except she was really rude, crude, and obnoxious.

John Kerrys politics is what kept me from voting for him and probably 99.9999% of all the people who didnt vote for him.

 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Stunt
BushBasha, yeah...you got me...I'm a White Supremacist...
Damn you are a swift one, can't hide anything from you.

Here I thought i could hide my allegences by mysteriously putting my motives in my blog address, but no...you rose to the occasion and set things straight.

HEY EVERYBODY I'M A RACIST!

:roll:

It gets deeper. I read your "Help African Help Herself" arguments..."


"[m]uch like the homeless man on the street; if you give him money are you helping him? Or inviting him to come back the next day for the next free handout?"

I guess the grand dragon doesn't like Heinz, because if we feed her, she, like "the homeless man on the street," would "come back the next day for the next free handout."

I rest my case, Mr. Stunt. Please don't hate me. I like you and want no handouts from your white world.