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Saint Nick
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olds
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If you accept credit card payments through paypal and don't have chargeback insurance, i have no idea how to help you then. Can't fix stupid.
edit: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/seller-protection-learn-more
helps to also follow that.
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MontyAC
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They are using a stolen Paypal account. You will initially receive the money. You will ship the item. Then the money will be deducted from your Paypal account once someone complains. If you have no money in Paypal then it will be deducted from your bank account. Unfortunately, you don't get the item back.
This is pretty much one of the oldest internet scams. What the fuck? We shouldn't have to explain this to you.
This is pretty much one of the oldest internet scams. What the fuck? We shouldn't have to explain this to you.
This makes me glad I don't do eBay and PayPal anymore. What's the whole point of PayPal in the first place if it really doesn't protect you against someone stealing one of THEIR accounts?
Not really mad, though. There's been nothing good on eBay in well over 8 years. They're the Blackberry of internet sales.
Are they breaking into the home also or standing outside of the CONFIRMED address? Are they adding a credit card they control and are able to confirm?
No. They are stealing confirmed accounts.
Go into the dark web (Tor) and see the gigantic market for shit like this. Confirmed accounts sell for more than a standard account.
Meghan54
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There's no chargeback insurance despite claims otherwise. If Paypal is used with a stolen credit card or compromised account, Paypal will chargeback to your account, pure and simple.
I'm still lost at how they are managing to put a different confirmed address on it that they control or how they are duping delivery people at the preexisting confirmed address.
I nearly got scammed about 11 years ago.
I was selling a laptop on eBay and was contacted by someone looking for additional laptops. They were from a foreign country (can't remember where) and they told me they wanted to purchase new laptops from America because in their country the laptops they purchased often had components missing or downgraded.
It seemed plausible and they were basically offering to pay a couple hundred dollars over retail. They wanted to pay with a check and they had a bank account in the US. Nothing came off as fishy - no high pressure sales tactic or anything. I told them I would take a check but would call the bank to make sure funds cleared before sending and they agreed.
I received the check in the mail and deposited it. I called the bank the check was from and they confirmed the check was good and that there were sufficient funds to cover it. I called my bank several days later and they told me the check had cleared and funds were available to withdraw. I ordered the laptops and prepared them for shipment (customs forms, etc.) The day before I was going to ship them I received a call from my bank telling me that the check had been put on hold by the sender. I asked what happened and all they could tell me was that there was a stop payment put on the check. I asked them about our conversation where they confirmed funds were available and withdrawn and apparently that doesn't matter if someone puts a stop payment on the check. I was pretty close to being scammed out of $5K in laptops.
That was back in 2001 or so. This scam was all about timing. The guy did have a bank account in USA, he did pay with one of his own checks, he did have sufficient funds, and he know that he could put a stop payment even after the check was showing as cleared. It was complete bullshit but he knew how to game the system.
Moral: nobody is going to contact you to make a few hundred bucks to sell them some electronics. Scams come in all different forms. If it seems like a scam, it is a scam. If it doesn't seem like a scam, it is still most likely a scam. They get creative - don't be the first one to fall for something creative.
I was selling a laptop on eBay and was contacted by someone looking for additional laptops. They were from a foreign country (can't remember where) and they told me they wanted to purchase new laptops from America because in their country the laptops they purchased often had components missing or downgraded.
It seemed plausible and they were basically offering to pay a couple hundred dollars over retail. They wanted to pay with a check and they had a bank account in the US. Nothing came off as fishy - no high pressure sales tactic or anything. I told them I would take a check but would call the bank to make sure funds cleared before sending and they agreed.
I received the check in the mail and deposited it. I called the bank the check was from and they confirmed the check was good and that there were sufficient funds to cover it. I called my bank several days later and they told me the check had cleared and funds were available to withdraw. I ordered the laptops and prepared them for shipment (customs forms, etc.) The day before I was going to ship them I received a call from my bank telling me that the check had been put on hold by the sender. I asked what happened and all they could tell me was that there was a stop payment put on the check. I asked them about our conversation where they confirmed funds were available and withdrawn and apparently that doesn't matter if someone puts a stop payment on the check. I was pretty close to being scammed out of $5K in laptops.
That was back in 2001 or so. This scam was all about timing. The guy did have a bank account in USA, he did pay with one of his own checks, he did have sufficient funds, and he know that he could put a stop payment even after the check was showing as cleared. It was complete bullshit but he knew how to game the system.
Moral: nobody is going to contact you to make a few hundred bucks to sell them some electronics. Scams come in all different forms. If it seems like a scam, it is a scam. If it doesn't seem like a scam, it is still most likely a scam. They get creative - don't be the first one to fall for something creative.
Often they will have your carrier re-route the package after it is in transit with a tracking number. Or they can call FedEx/UPS and tell them they will pick it up in office. They get the tracking number and wait outside the confirmed address and pick it up.
There are a dozen ways to do it and often you aren't the only one being scammed.
BoomerD
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I was contacted via text on my cell phone. Everything seems legit, but there is that feeling in the back of my mind. I have come very close to being scammed on eBay and craigslist in the past. I just wanted to get some input from others, which I appreciate greatly to those that haven't been an ass.
That being said, I won't sell to this guy/woman. Some information I obtained when I asked them some more info earlier today just threw up a slew of red flags.
That being said, I won't sell to this guy/woman. Some information I obtained when I asked them some more info earlier today just threw up a slew of red flags.
Brainonska511
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Remember these words for dealing with craigslist sales:
Cash only and exchange in a public place if possible. No shipping.
OP is definitely trolling.
I refuse to believe that anyone posting on this forum is actually that naive.
I refuse to believe that anyone posting on this forum is actually that naive.
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