Is this a normal defect for a psu, or did I F' it up?

MonkeyFaces

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I purchased an open box motherboard from fry's (and will never again). When I tried to boot it up with minimal components (only ram, cpu, video card, and 1 HD), I heard a jolt ( never heard one before, so I presumed it was just the fans powering on for a second then turning off). I only figured out it was a power problem when I tried booting from just the cpu and video card. When I attempted the boot, all of the power in my room was cut. I presumed it was just the motherboard causing the psu to act funny, so I never it figured it was defective. So when I returned the motherboard for a different one, I tried to boot from just the cpu and the video card. However, when I plugged the power cable into the psu, a stream of orange sparks shot for about 2 feet and scared the ****** out of me. When attempting to power up my system from a different psu, it worked fine. My question is, could an open box defective motherboard f' up my psu, or is there a chance it never was defective and it was just time for my psu to crap out a 2 feet stream of sparks from the back?
 

myocardia

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There never was a problem with the first motherboard, until you tried to power it with it bad psu. Psu's "take out" motherboards and hard drives every day, but it doesn't happen the other way around.
 

Powermoloch

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Originally posted by: myocardia
There never was a problem with the first motherboard, until you tried to power it with it bad psu. Psu's "take out" motherboards and hard drives every day, but it doesn't happen the other way around.


Yeah, it's unfortunate that all of the components other than the PSU are working.
 

MonkeyFaces

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What are the chances that fry's will accept my return? I purchased the psu from fry's as well, but I don't have the receipt or the original box (box got thrown away after upc and receipt were sent for rebate). Also, thermaltake won't accept warranty requests without the receipt. Will showing my rebate status form, all orginal package contents, and stating that my safety was endangered by the stream of sparks give me any chance of getting a same item replacement?
 

MonkeyFaces

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An "abnormal" defect (did I even use the term?) is product failure caused by improper use. Basically, I was asking if a violent stream of lightning shooting from the power socket is a defect that is common to psu manufacturing failures, and not me dropping it or poking it with a stick.
 

Lord Evermore

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You asked about it being a normal defect, so the opposite of that would be an abnormal one.

Anything that involves you screwing it up has nothing to do with defects in manufacturing, it would be user abuse that exceeds the normal operating environment and specifications. You sticking a screwdriver in it and causing sparks doesn't make the device defective, "normal defect" or otherwise.

Not trying to be rude or anything, we just don't need another person blaming poor design to explain failure after they did something dumb.
 

Bobthelost

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Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
You asked about it being a normal defect, so the opposite of that would be an abnormal one.

Anything that involves you screwing it up has nothing to do with defects in manufacturing, it would be user abuse that exceeds the normal operating environment and specifications. You sticking a screwdriver in it and causing sparks doesn't make the device defective, "normal defect" or otherwise.

Not trying to be rude or anything, we just don't need another person blaming poor design to explain failure after they did something dumb.

The OP didn't do that though did he? Think you're going off on one without cause here. Read it again more carefully.
 

MonkeyFaces

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Why do you have to nitpick at what exactly is a "normal" defect? I think it's glaringly obvious that a "normal" defect is a product failure caused only by manufacturing faults. I guess an abnormal defect would be one that only happened to me because I was being a dumbass. A normal one would be a common occurence, presumably from a bad patch or poor product design. Not to be rude, but are you finding a way to troll by nipping at one small word? If other people did not understand what I meant by normal defect, then I am a dumbass. Otherwise, I am under the presumption that you're just trolling at 2AM because you're bored.
 

Lord Evermore

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Actually I wasn't even trying to make any serious complaint about the post, I was just pointing out that calling something a "normal" defect sounded silly.
 

MonkeyFaces

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Meh, you shouldn't have to have an apologetic or defensive tone. I was just irked because the complaint was silly, I didn't find it offensive, or serious for that matter.