Is this a Good Price on a Car?

freemanteo

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2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS, 4cyl
73000 miles
Excellent Condition
Alloy, moon roof etc...
i think it has cloth seats.

Private Seller Asking $8200 OBO


Kelly Blue Book Private Seller - $9310
Kelly Blue Book Dealer - $11,625

If i can talk him down to $8000, do you think its a good deal? Thanks.
 

cressida

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Originally posted by: freemanteo
2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS, 4cyl
73000 miles
Excellent Condition
Alloy, moon roof etc...
i think it has cloth seats.

Private Seller Asking $8200 OBO


Kelly Blue Book Private Seller - $9310
Kelly Blue Book Dealer - $11,625

If i can talk him down to $8000, do you think its a good deal? Thanks.

73000 miles? kind of high, but it also depends where u live.
 

KokomoGST

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Ugh... crud car... don't buy. You can find a much better-looking, reliable, & faster car for $8k.
 

freemanteo

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I think 73000 is ok, since i donot put much miles on a car, and i can only afford cars that have high miles as the price will be lower. I live in East Texas, places are far apart, so it is mostly highway miles.

I wish i can afford a brand new 0 miles car but i cannot. And i work in a garage, so if the head blows, trans goes out, i can get it done pretty quick and cheap too. :)

 

Syringer

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I personally prefer the look of the second generation Eclipses, but that's just me. If you like how the car looks and drives, go for it, it's a good deal.
 

freemanteo

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Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Ugh... crud car... don't buy. You can find a much better-looking, reliable, & faster car for $8k.

Yes i can, like a 3000GT or Mustang. But i donot think i can get a 2000 model sporty car for $8000.
 

KokomoGST

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Originally posted by: freemanteo
Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Ugh... crud car... don't buy. You can find a much better-looking, reliable, & faster car for $8k.

Yes i can, like a 3000GT or Mustang. But i donot think i can get a 2000 model sporty car for $8000.

Sure ya can... never say never! :)

A 1999 Eclipse GST (as long as it doesn't have crankwalk issues) will be faster and better-looking like Syringer suggested. I own a crankwalk-free 95. I've spend less than $6k in the car so far (including the car itself)... I step all over my friends 2000 Eclipse GT like it was standing still... girls drool over my car... 2000+ is more love-hate. BTW, if the V6 GT is gutless... a GS is pure wimp... sporty wouldn't describe it especially since it's going to be heavy and underpowered. Sporty-looking, definitely.

But like I said, other slightly older cars with similar mileage will do ya better. VW GTI, Civic Si, Del Sol VTEC, Integra GSR all come to mind... you even might be able to swing a 2000 GTI for around 8500.
 

ElFenix

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i wouldn't do it. mileage is way high. they might be highway miles but they might be houston traffic hell miles as well.
 

human2k

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the problem i think is to determine what tasks are more "serial" and which are more "parallel". different programs are going to have different access profiles to main memory, the problem is who's going to profile these programs? and then once you've profiled these programs, you have to be sure you've captured the behavior of the memory accesses for that program in it's entirety in order to optimize memory accesses, if you had the dual memory approach that you are proposing. from a feasability standpoint, this requires a lot of overhead, not to mention the hardware complexity. there's also the factor that the profiling may not entirely be accurate because the accesses to main memory may be a function of the dataset the program is working with, something like a database for instance. queries doing multiple joins on huge sets will access main memory in a very parallel way if the memory is there. something like many small queries on small sets will have a more random, "serial" type access pattern. this is all for the same database software.

memory is more dependent on the actual hardware platform you're running, i.e. cpu, not necessarily the program you are running. the object of the memory hierarchy present in computers now is to hide as much of the hardware implementation from the program as possible. each type of ram is also just a storage medium. how the memory controller handles the interface between the cpu and the actual modules is what's going to determine the performance factor. dual channel ddr can certainly compete with the likes of rambus in terms of bandwidth, and does better with latency. rambus could compete in the latency department if enough channels are interleaved. even serverworks implemented a design using standard pc133 sdram that had enough bandwidth to compete with the likes of ddr.

as it stands right now, i think that if you make the memory damn fast, the performance you're going to get is going to be good enough not to warrant a dedicated channel for disk buffering and another for video streaming etc... as long as you take into account the worse case scenarios. with hammer coming out, the hardware complexity will be increased even more because you have the memory controller onboard now, and i see this as a trend for the future.
 

kyutip

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Any flexibility on your price ?
When I was looking for a car a month ago, I stumble across 2002 Lancer OZ Edition 13k Miles with asking price of $9000 from a dealer. The car look smooth and clean, I almost bought it too.
But I need bigger car so I pass.
Pretty nice car, need more HP but that's pretty easy and cheap upgrade.
I think at $9000 it is a better deal than the Eclipse.
Even though 73k hwy miles, car starts to show problem around that age/miles.
Your maintenance alone might crunch your funds. Think about it.
 

cressida

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Originally posted by: human2k
the problem i think is to determine what tasks are more "serial" and which are more "parallel". different programs are going to have different access profiles to main memory, the problem is who's going to profile these programs? and then once you've profiled these programs, you have to be sure you've captured the behavior of the memory accesses for that program in it's entirety in order to optimize memory accesses, if you had the dual memory approach that you are proposing. from a feasability standpoint, this requires a lot of overhead, not to mention the hardware complexity. there's also the factor that the profiling may not entirely be accurate because the accesses to main memory may be a function of the dataset the program is working with, something like a database for instance. queries doing multiple joins on huge sets will access main memory in a very parallel way if the memory is there. something like many small queries on small sets will have a more random, "serial" type access pattern. this is all for the same database software.

memory is more dependent on the actual hardware platform you're running, i.e. cpu, not necessarily the program you are running. the object of the memory hierarchy present in computers now is to hide as much of the hardware implementation from the program as possible. each type of ram is also just a storage medium. how the memory controller handles the interface between the cpu and the actual modules is what's going to determine the performance factor. dual channel ddr can certainly compete with the likes of rambus in terms of bandwidth, and does better with latency. rambus could compete in the latency department if enough channels are interleaved. even serverworks implemented a design using standard pc133 sdram that had enough bandwidth to compete with the likes of ddr.

as it stands right now, i think that if you make the memory damn fast, the performance you're going to get is going to be good enough not to warrant a dedicated channel for disk buffering and another for video streaming etc... as long as you take into account the worse case scenarios. with hammer coming out, the hardware complexity will be increased even more because you have the memory controller onboard now, and i see this as a trend for the future.

lol
 

freemanteo

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thanks people, i think i will fish around for more deals. The lancer sounds like a good deal! But it is WAY underpowered if i remember correctly.


VW GTI is cool too. Or a beetle GT?


how did your 95 GST beat a 2K+ GT? Unless you got some mods in your engine? :)

I seriously like a convertible better. With $8000, i can buy a Trans Am or Camaro z28 but it will eat gas fast.

Ummmm.... i prefer something with a 4Cyl or V6 and with some speed like 150hp and above. It saves me some money on gas too.
 

freemanteo

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I like the MR2 Spyder better.

I did not know the Trans Am gets high 20s for gas.

Maybe i should buy a nice sports car that was wrecked, thats the only way i can afford it! :eek: