Is this a good computer build?

Xdrive

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Im about to upgrade my AthlonXP 3000+,
1024mb corsair ram 1x512mb (CMX512-3200XL) 2x256mb (CMX256A-3200LL)
Ati Radeon 9800 (nonpro) overclocked to 378mhz core.
Old motherboard is Abit NF7-S2G.
Got 2x200gb seagate hardrives which i run in raid0. (Will reuse these)
OCZ Modstream 520W, Will reuse this one if it works.

To the following parts just to be able to play oblivion and games for the next 2 years or so with ok performance and on high details atleast the first year.

Point of View GeForce 7800GT 256Mb DDR3 TV-out DUAL DVI VIVO SLI-ready RETAIL PCI Express (Picked Point of view becuse it was alot cheaper than other 7800GTs)
Anyone tried this card? If so how good is it? are the dvi out good?

AMD Athlon64 Venice 90nm 3500+ 2.2GHz 512kb bulk/tray Socket939

(Will this processor be enough for the feature?, will i be able to overclock this cpu with the memorys i have/are about to buy?)

Corsair CMX512-3200XL XMS3200 512Mb DDR PC3200 XL 2-2-2-5 400MHz with Heatsink

Already got an 512mb module of this type in my comp now, which i will use to give me 1024mb ram to the new comp. Maybe i will add the 2x256mb (CMX256A-3200LL) into the new comp also which gives me 1,5gb memory but i have to use 2t timing, dont know which is best, 1gb ram 1t or 1,5gb 2t.

Abit KN8-SLI,nForce4 SLI, Socket-939, ATX, 4xSATAII, GbLAN, Firewire, PCI-Ex16
I thought this looked like a good motherboard becuse of the heatpipe on the chipset.

Does it look like an ok computer? any better recommendations without to much of cost increase?
 

Aisengard

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Just a quick note, don't get the 3500+ Venice, get the 3800+ San Diego or leg up and get a dual core.

Or if you want to be on the cheap side, get a 3200+ and save a few, it overclocks just as well as the 3500+.

And I've never heard of "Point of View," honestly, I would choose eVGA, it's a reputable company, and their lifetime warranties even cover overclocking.
 

theMan

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switch video card to the evga 7800gt. its higher quality, better support, better warrantee.

switch cpu ti 3700+ san diego core, or X2 3800+ if you can afford.

Ram- nononononnonononono! dont waste all that money on ram! get 2x512mb value ram. 512mb is not enough. i know, i used to try to game with that much. it sucked. especially in FEAR. almost unplayable. go to the For sale/trade forum, and sell your other stick. you will get a fair amount for it.

switch the motherboard to epox 9npa+ ultra. you are overclocking right? this is a good mobo for that.

your psu is good. and the hard drives look good.


 

hurtstotalktoyou

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If you're overclocking, it doesn't make a lot of sense to get a 3500+. A 3000+ "Venice" has about the same max speed. Or, if it's not out of your budget, you could get an X2 3800+. A 939/144 works, too, if you can find one.

Also, are you sure you need SLI? You could save a few bucks there, since it doesn't appear you'll be using that feature any time soon.
 

Xdrive

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hmm. The biggest problem is that i live in sweden, and the computer companies here have a very limited amount of hardware. Havent found a company which sells evga here :(

And im not really sure that i will overclock, how high will i come without increasing vcore?
I dont want to buy for example and 3000+ and then im stuck with it without being able to overclock.

I chose the abit motherboard becuse it didnt had a fan at the chipset, it had a heatpipe, a silent computer is very important to me.

And i didnt have the thought at running with 512mb memory,
i got 1x512mb (CMX512-3200XL) right now and im about to buy another one so that it will be a total of 1024mb. then i got 2x256mb (CMX256A-3200LL) in the computer now which i might put in also, but then it will be 2t timing.
 

theMan

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all the new athlon 64 procs today are EXTREMELY SWEET at overclocking. some people have gotten 3000+ venice cores up to 2.4ghz without a vcore increase. however, a small increase is completely safe. most venices max out at 2.7ghz at 1.55v. a very safe voltage btw. also, if you can afford, the X2 processors are amazing. overclocking, performance, heat. a very good investment.
 

Xdrive

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this overclocking is only possible with epox 9npa+ ultra and not so good with Abit KN8-SLI,nForce4 SLI? Just wonder with a though that you said it overclocked better.

How good does it work to overclock with Corsair VS1GB400C3 Value Select 2x1024Mb (tot. 2048Mb/2Gb) Dual DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin CL3 ???
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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I've got my 3200+ Venice up to 2.5ghz from 2.0ghz with VCore at 1.45V. I'm too lazy to go higher. You should be able to get a really nice overclock on a 3000+. Ditch the premium RAM and pick up 2x1GB of value RAM. You definitely want 2GB now. 1GB won't cut it for games like BF2 and F.E.A.R.
 

Skyhanger

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eVGA just set up a subsidary in Europe based out of Germany. Check and see if theyll sell to Sweden. They just set it up weeks ago so Im not even sure if they are in business yet.
 

T101

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Why buy value ram when these memory modules are manufactured using whatever memory circuits are available at the moment? which means that the next time you need some more memory, and buy new value ram, they might not be compatable. It would be much better to buy a step up from value ram, to make sure that when you buy the same model of memoy a year from now on, it _will_ be compatible.

Also, why recommend overclocking as a default measure to gain performance. There is no guarantees that his core, or all his components are capable of reaching those speeds. No one can say that there are not another bad batch of cores out there like the CBBID winnies (which is near impossible to overclock), and should any of his components not hold up to the requirements during överclocking, he will have to pay even more money to have it replaced. Why not just buy a faster process from the start? at least then, if it does not overclock well, you are able to run it at stock speeds, or at least just overclock it very little.

The summary of the point is; You never know for certain that overclocking will be succesful, it is as much an art as science, and because of this, I feel it to be bad advice to give to a user. Better he buys a good enough CPU to begin with, then he may try his hands at overclocking if he wish to. But at least, if it does not work, he has a sufficent CPU, and does not have to spend more cash to get a suffiently powerful system.

Sorry if I put my foot down and bring some sense to the discussion.
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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Yeah, but most AMD CPU's currently are very overclockable. It should be no problem getting a 400-600mhz overclock. That speed increase alone will cost you a couple hundred dollars. Also, value RAM isn't necesarily any less compatable than premium RAM...