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simms

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Is this the same as Caltech? Like THE Caltech up there with MIT? And you can get in with a 3.7 and a 1310?

Seriously, because I'm Canadian and this would be interesting.
 

MrCodeDude

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Originally posted by: simms
Is this the same as Caltech? Like THE Caltech up there with MIT? And you can get in with a 3.7 and a 1310?

Seriously, because I'm Canadian and this would be interesting.
lol, me applying to CIT would just be a waste of money.
 

Kermy

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I go to Cow Poly and no, Poly isn't the same as Cal Tech. We can only wish. ;) As one professor put it: You can go to a U.C. for the asians but you come here for the [hot] valley girls. You're not going to find any surfer chicks at Davis that's for sure.
 

MrCodeDude

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Originally posted by: PowerEngineer
uh...Dude...Maybe it's time you broadened your horizons.

It seems foolish to put all your college "eggs in one basket". No need for a "Cal Poly or Bust (community college)" attitude! Give yourself some options! There are plenty of reasonable engineering schools out there, and you should be able to find several that you'd be willing to go to! :roll:

I hope you do get into Cal Poly, but stop posting for a while and use the time to fill out a few more college applications.

Good luck!
All the Student Advisers at my HS said that if I want to go to a CSU or a UC, transfering from a 4 year to another 4 year will be incredibly hard due to the skyrocketing amount of people accepted. Our governator wants every student to go to a CC first, then move onto the four-years.

Here in California, or so I've been told, going from one four year college to another is incredibly hard. Transfering to Cal Poly is even harder where it's almost impossible to switch out of your major. I don't want to apply to a college, get accepted, go to some place like UC Davis, then try to transfer into Cal Poly, get denied because I'm already @ a four year and have to spend four years at a college I really never wanted to go to in the first place.
 

simms

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Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: simms
Is this the same as Caltech? Like THE Caltech up there with MIT? And you can get in with a 3.7 and a 1310?

Seriously, because I'm Canadian and this would be interesting.
lol, me applying to CIT would just be a waste of money.

Thank you, just wondering if they were the same. :)
 

MrCodeDude

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Originally posted by: Kermy
I go to Cow Poly and no, Poly isn't the same as Cal Tech. We can only wish. ;) As one professor put it: You can go to a U.C. for the asians but you come here for the [hot] valley girls. You're not going to find any surfer chicks at Davis that's for sure.
Seriously. Not to dog on asian chicks, but yeah, UC Davis is full of them. Growing up in San Jose, CA, ~75% of my school is asian. Comparing chicks in the Bay Area to chicks when I go back to Ohio (to visit relatives), these small, petite asians do not even belong on the same scale. (IMO)
 

Koing

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azn hater! :p j/k

Just apply to WHERE you want to go. I applied to places where I DIDN'T WANT TO GO to 'just in case'. I'd have eventually liked it I suppose at the other places. But it wasn't where I wanted to go though.

Good luck and you will make it :D

I got to where I wanted to go also :D and in my last 6 months here.

Koing
 

FleshLight

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3.7 gpa and similar sat scores here with a 4 in US History and a 5 in Environmental Sci. I'll be applying to UCI, UCSD, UCD, UCSB, Cal Poly Po, CSLB, and CSSD hopefully majoring in Civ E. My hopes aren't high :(
 

Merlyn3D

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Originally posted by: Sahakiel
Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
I go to UC Davis, it's a better school than cal poly. Plus, there are so many hot girls up here.

You must be ECS. There's a reason EUII has a problem with lighting.


I'm in EE. Believe you me, I know how the campus has a guy's side (engineering) and a girls side (pretty much everything else).

And MrCodeDude, yes, Davis is about 7-8 miles from the nearest city, but a little over an hour from the bay area (unless you're me and you aim for 45 minutes goin 95+), and only 10 minutes from Sacramento. If you've got friends and a car, there's plenty to do.
 

shopbruin

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i think you should apply to as many schools as possible and see what's the best one you get into.

unless you're concerned over the cost of tuition, then cal poly would be your best bet as it is seen as the "best" csu.

with your numbers, you're a slight longshot for UCD. i don't know if you'd have a chance at UCSD engineering. plus did you take the sat II's for the uc's?

davis is a much higher ranked and respected school than cal poly. if you're not going to go to grad school ever, might as well go to the best school you possibly can.

Cal poly (us news)

Fall 2005 Admissions
Application deadline: November 30
Application fee: $55
Selectivity: More selective

U.S. News Ranking
U.S. News ranking: Universities?Master's (West), 5

UC Davis:

Fall 2005 Admissions
Application deadline: November 30
Application fee: $40
Selectivity: Most selective

U.S. News Ranking
U.S. News ranking: National Universities, 42

with your numbers it seems like to me you should get into cal poly. of course being that you're applying engineering, who knows. check the numbers of others you know that got in RECENTLY and see if you're comparably. csu's do go by numbers alone, no essay so that's an advantage in some respects.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
I just found some list of the best EE schools, and aside from the ones mentioned (or ones I actually saw mentioned), there's:

CalTech
USC
Stanford

Where's MIT, UC Berkeley and UIUC? And USC doesn't belong in that list at all.
 

MrCodeDude

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Originally posted by: freesia39
davis is a much higher ranked and respected school than cal poly.
In most majors, yes. But Cal Poly has one of the higher ranked Engineering programs in CA behind only CIT, Stanford, Cal and UCLA.

The only thing with Cal Poly is it doesn't offer PHD degrees.
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: mwtgg
I just found some list of the best EE schools, and aside from the ones mentioned (or ones I actually saw mentioned), there's:

CalTech
USC
Stanford

Where's MIT, UC Berkeley and UIUC? And USC doesn't belong in that list at all.

Erm, I was looking at West Coast, more specifically California only.. Berkeley was already mentioned in the thread.
 

PoPPeR

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Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Rank/School Peer assessment score
(5.0 = highest)
1. Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN) 4.4
2. Harvey Mudd College (CA) 4.2
3. Cooper Union (NY) 4.1
4. United States Military Academy (NY)* 3.9
United States Naval Academy (MD)* 3.9
6. Cal Poly?San Luis Obispo * 3.7
United States Air Force Acad. (CO)* 3.7
8. Bucknell University (PA) 3.6
9. Villanova University (PA) 3.4
10. Embry Riddle Aeronautical U. (FL)

Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs
(At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate)

Rank/School Peer assessment score
(5.0 = highest)
1. Massachusetts Inst. of Technology 4.9
2. Stanford University (CA) 4.8
3. University of California?Berkeley * 4.7
4. California Institute of Technology 4.6
U. of Illinois?Urbana-Champaign * 4.6
6. Georgia Institute of Technology * 4.5
7. University of Michigan?Ann Arbor * 4.4
8. Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.3
Purdue Univ.?West Lafayette (IN)* 4.3
10. Cornell University (NY) 4.2

taken off USNews. Of course "ratings" are always subjective, but for the most part you get an idea of what the solid schools are. During my senior year, we formed a group called CPR (Cal Poly Rejects). I had friends getting into Davis, UCLA, University of Florida, Irvine, etc., and we all got rejected by Cal Poly. It's a great engineering school and competition is fierce. You are by no means a lock to get in, but you have a good chance at least.

edit: ok we didn't "form a group", but during college acceptance times we referred to ourselves as CPR's.
 

sciencewhiz

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Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
All the Student Advisers at my HS said that if I want to go to a CSU or a UC, transfering from a 4 year to another 4 year will be incredibly hard due to the skyrocketing amount of people accepted. Our governator wants every student to go to a CC first, then move onto the four-years.

That's true, but was also true before Arnold was Governor.

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Does anyone know if I don't get in early admission and am flat out rejected, it doesn't go through the regular admission process?

I'm not sure specifically for Cal Poly as it varies school to school. Many schools will defer you to the regular admission process though.

Originally posted by: sniperruff
chances are courses at community college's won't be accepted later when you transfer.

That's not true at all. All California community colleges will have transfer agreements with various cal state and UC schools. If you talk to your advisor at the CC, you will know exactly what will and won't transfer. Also check if your CC has an honors program, because you will qualify with your GPA and test scores. My CC had guaranteed admission to UCLA if you completed the honors program.

Also, one thing to note for those of you not from California, the Community College system is a lot better then most other states. I've been to CC in California and a private university in NY, and I wouldn't go to a CC in NY, but in many cases the stuff I did at the CC in CA was better then what I got elsewhere.
 

thomsbrain

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if your next choice after cal poly is to go to a CC, then no, don't bother with other colleges. but if you didn't get into cal poly and would have gone to one of those other schools, it would suck to have not applied. what about Santa Cruz? It's a lot nicer than any of those other schools even if it's not a huge EE school.
 

kcthomas

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i am EE at santa barbara, which i chose over cal poly. i chose here because:

1) cal poly rarely gets people out in 4 years. I think most people go at least 5 (ill be out in 4) SB also offers a joint BSEE/Masters program which is only a 5 year program. You start taking graduate classes your senior year.
2) its difficult to get classes at cal poly (i have never had a problem getting a class i need)

this information was told to me at a cal poly open house when i was deciding where to go and has been confirmed by my friends who are EE at cal poly right now. I have 2 friends that are EE up there and they will both go at least 5.


Another thing, EE here is improving. we have had a couple nobel winners in the last couple years. im pretty sure its ranked higher than davis. For Graduate schools offering PHDs UCSB is ranked 21. I think the UC rankings for engineering go Berkely, UCLA, UCSD, UCSB, then i dont know after that. You might want to double check that though. I had almost exactly the same numbers as you (little higher GPA, little lower SAT) I got into davis, SB, cal poly. I didn't get into UCLA or UCSD.

 

chiwawa626

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Go for engineering at UCSD, it ranks rite under UCB and UCLA! Its a great engineering program better then davis id say. Calpoly has a good engineering program, undergrad only, ucsd has a great undergrad/grad program as well. The other thing is state schools are a lot smaller and may lack a lot of facillities. If I were you I'd try in this order: UCSD, UCD, UCSB, CALPOLY.
Its not going to hurt to apply to a place if you can afford it.

UCSD:


The Jacobs School of Engineering was ranked 7th among public engineering schools and 13th among all engineering schools. The Jacobs School?s Department of Bioengineering ranked 2nd among the nation?s biomedical and bioengineering programs. With $118 million in research support, the Jacobs School is 3rd in the nation for research expenditures per faculty member. Other Jacobs School graduate programs highly ranked in the survey include: computer engineering (14); electrical/electronic/communications (14); mechanical engineering (18); aerospace engineering (18); and materials (23).

UCSD >> UCD. davis sucks :)
 

PKPunk

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
All the Student Advisers at my HS said that if I want to go to a CSU or a UC, transfering from a 4 year to another 4 year will be incredibly hard due to the skyrocketing amount of people accepted. Our governator wants every student to go to a CC first, then move onto the four-years.

That's true, but was also true before Arnold was Governor.

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Does anyone know if I don't get in early admission and am flat out rejected, it doesn't go through the regular admission process?

I'm not sure specifically for Cal Poly as it varies school to school. Many schools will defer you to the regular admission process though.

Originally posted by: sniperruff
chances are courses at community college's won't be accepted later when you transfer.

That's not true at all. All California community colleges will have transfer agreements with various cal state and UC schools. If you talk to your advisor at the CC, you will know exactly what will and won't transfer. Also check if your CC has an honors program, because you will qualify with your GPA and test scores. My CC had guaranteed admission to UCLA if you completed the honors program.

Also, one thing to note for those of you not from California, the Community College system is a lot better then most other states. I've been to CC in California and a private university in NY, and I wouldn't go to a CC in NY, but in many cases the stuff I did at the CC in CA was better then what I got elsewhere.



you can find out what transfers right now go to
http://www.assist.org/web-assist/welcome.html just select a jc and college you want to go to

Also you'll find most JC don't have all lower division major specific classes you need. So once you transfer as a junior you'll have to take all those freshman, sophomore level course when you get in to your school. You'll want to call the college you want to transfer to make sure the info on assit.org is up to date because a lot of JC counselors solely depend on assit.org when you go to talk to them. I went to DVC hear in Northern Cali. and the counselors were useless, they'd just tell you a GPA you need and give you a printout from assit.org.
 

simms

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Originally posted by: Gooose
GPA/Test Scores can only get you so far - have anything else to make you "the one"?

Good point. As well, if you get rejected for early, I believe that still entitles you to regular acceptance.
 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: PKPunk
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
All the Student Advisers at my HS said that if I want to go to a CSU or a UC, transfering from a 4 year to another 4 year will be incredibly hard due to the skyrocketing amount of people accepted. Our governator wants every student to go to a CC first, then move onto the four-years.

That's true, but was also true before Arnold was Governor.

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Does anyone know if I don't get in early admission and am flat out rejected, it doesn't go through the regular admission process?

I'm not sure specifically for Cal Poly as it varies school to school. Many schools will defer you to the regular admission process though.

Originally posted by: sniperruff
chances are courses at community college's won't be accepted later when you transfer.

That's not true at all. All California community colleges will have transfer agreements with various cal state and UC schools. If you talk to your advisor at the CC, you will know exactly what will and won't transfer. Also check if your CC has an honors program, because you will qualify with your GPA and test scores. My CC had guaranteed admission to UCLA if you completed the honors program.

Also, one thing to note for those of you not from California, the Community College system is a lot better then most other states. I've been to CC in California and a private university in NY, and I wouldn't go to a CC in NY, but in many cases the stuff I did at the CC in CA was better then what I got elsewhere.



you can find out what transfers right now go to
http://www.assist.org/web-assist/welcome.html just select a jc and college you want to go to

Also you'll find most JC don't have all lower division major specific classes you need. So once you transfer as a junior you'll have to take all those freshman, sophomore level course when you get in to your school. You'll want to call the college you want to transfer to make sure the info on assit.org is up to date because a lot of JC counselors solely depend on assit.org when you go to talk to them. I went to DVC hear in Northern Cali. and the counselors were useless, they'd just tell you a GPA you need and give you a printout from assit.org.
omfg... DVC Counselors = USELESS. COMPLETELY USELESS. Not only would they have lack of information, but the info they would tell you would be WRONG.

The only counselor you should contact is the one at the school that you're trying to get into.

 

PoPPeR

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Cal Poly San Luis Obispo

What is the relative importance of specific academic factors in admission decisions?
Secondary school record: Very important
Class rank: Not considered
Recommendation(s): Not considered
Standardized test scores: Very important
Essay: Not considered

2003-2004 Admissions Statistics
Selectivity: More Selective
Overall acceptance rate: 39%
Early-decision acceptance rate: 19%
Early-action acceptance rate: N/A
Acceptance rate (excluding early-action and early-decision students): N/A

Male applicants: 11,227
Male acceptances: 4,277
Male freshman enrollment: 1,578

Female applicants: 9,600
Female acceptances: 3,712
Female freshman enrollment: 1,250

2003-2004 Freshman Class Profile
Top 10 percent of high school class: 42%
Top 25 percent of high school class: 78%
Top 50 percent of high school class: 96%

First-year students submitting high school class standing: 73%
Average high school GPA: 3.7

First-year students submitting SAT scores: 98%
SAT I scores (25/75 percentile):
Verbal: 520 ? 620
Math: 570 ? 660
Combined: 1090 ? 1280

First-year students submitting ACT scores: 44%
ACT scores (25/75 percentile):
English: 22 ? 28
Math: 24 ? 29
Composite: 23 ? 27