Is there something wrong with America?

[iGas]

American complaints about fuel price and lack of jobs daily, and it seems that they do not want to buy cheap fuel from Canada or jobs that it will provide.

The XL pipeline project will bring 1.7-1.9 million barrels of "dirty" Canadian oil daily to Texas for processing, and possibly up to 5 million barrels daily in the future. The project require 2-4 new refineries, and will provide roughly 10,000~30,000 jobs. With the possibility of employing an additional 30,000-50,000 people in 6-8 more refineries at 20-25 years from now.

Perhaps American want to pay market price for Canadian oil instead at a steep discount at the moment, because Canadian are not waiting and are pushing ahead with the dirty oil development. The Enbridge oil project will carry Alberta oil to BC coast and onto international market (mainly China) at a higher price than the strike price that American is currently paying for Canadian tarsand oil.

 

[Anubis]

there are lots of things wrong with pretty much everyone

 

[Newbian]

We want to use the pipeline for maple syrup instead.

 

[Anubis]

the best maple syrup already comes from the US

 

[Bateluer]

The US doesn't want to use either our own oil reserves or Canadian oil until the middle east is completely drained dry and the region is removed from the world's power struggles.

 

[Gothgar]

We want to use the pipeline for maple syrup instead.

I skimmed the rest till I got here, I like Maple Syrup

 

[amdhunter]

The oil that the pipeline will bring to the U.S. is mainly to refine for export to other countries, not to sell domestic fuel at a discount.

What's wrong with this country is that it is run by a bunch of pieces of crap who'd rather line their pockets with insane amounts of money by screwing their own people and killing Brown people, all while justifying their actions by brainwashing Christian idiots who think it's OK because their equally retarded and imaginary God god wills it.

 

[BoomerD]

The objections to the pipeline have nothing to do with the quality of oil or the types of jobs...it's more about the potential pollution to the major aquifers that it will cross, to the potential pollution from leaks and spills. (it's not like the oil companies have some sterling record of protecting the environment)
Since the refiners are already running a HUGE surplus of refined products, (look at the recent threads about exporting gasoline) it's not like we currently need a larger supply...and it's not like the oil companies are struggling to make a profit.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

If you can't eat it, can't sleep under it, can't wear it or make something from it, it's not worth anything.

 

[spidey07]

America is fine. It's the fuckstick in the white house that is the problem.

 

[dmcowen674]

Is there something wrong with America?

American complaints about fuel price and lack of jobs daily, and it seems that they do not want to buy cheap fuel from Canada or jobs that it will provide.

The XL pipeline project will bring 1.7-1.9 million barrels of "dirty" Canadian oil daily to Texas for processing, and possibly up to 5 million barrels daily in the future. The project require 2-4 new refineries, and will employ roughly 10,000~30,000 jobs. With the possibility of employing an additional 30,000-50,000 people in 6-8 more refineries at 20-25 years from now.

Perhaps American want to pay market price for Canadian oil instead at a steep discount at the moment, because Canadian are not waiting and are pushing ahead with the dirty oil development. The Enbridge oil project will carry Alberta oil to BC coast and onto international market (mainly China) at a higher price than the strike price that American is currently paying for Canadian tarsand oil.

I have spent since 2000 documenting the lies of the Industry you are trying to tout here.

Thanks to people like me Americans now know everything you posted above is 110% a lie and scam.

Prices will not go down. Jobs will not be created.

 

[iGas]

I have spent since 2000 documenting the lies of the Industry you are trying to tout here.

Thanks to people like me Americans now know everything you posted above is 110% a lie and scam.

Prices will not go down. Jobs will not be created.

I'm not sure about price, but I'm damned sure that jobs will be created.

A refinery employ thousands (possibly up to 8,000 or more) of people permanently. And, it take several years and thousands of people to built.

PS. Please post the documented lies to back up your baseless claim.

 

[Bateluer]

Thanks to people like me Americans now know everything you posted above is 110% a lie and scam.

Psst . . . nobody gives a damn about unemployed teenagers on the Internet ranting on an Internet forum. Nobody in America even knows you exist.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Well they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it

 

[nageov3t]

the best maple syrup already comes from the US

but it needs to be shipped to Canada for refinement into fudge

 

[Ichinisan]

Never mind. Posting from mobile is hard.

 

[jman19]

America is fine. It's the fuckstick in the white house that is the problem.

Yeah, nothing was wrong before Obama became president. I don't think Obama has done a good job but your comment is just pathetic partisan bullshit at its finest.

 

[Ichinisan]

Yeah, nothing was wrong before Obama became president. I don't think Obama has done a good job but your comment is just pathetic partisan bullshit at its finest.

How do you know it's partisan? He might believe the previous president to occupy the White House was also a "fuckstick."

 

[SSSnail]

Then you'd be pissed off to know that the US was a net fuel exporter for 2011.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/us-becomes-net-exporter-o_n_857085.html

 

[spidey07]

Yeah, nothing was wrong before Obama became president. I don't think Obama has done a good job but your comment is just pathetic partisan bullshit at its finest.

Umm. Hes the one directly blocking it. Nothing partisan about the truth, do try to pay attention

 

[Doppel]

Americans like to bitch about gas prices as they are at the pump filling their knew F-150. It's just how it is.

 

[jman19]

How do you know it's partisan? He might believe the previous president to occupy the White House was also a "fuckstick."

I guess you haven't read any of his drivel over in P&N.

 

[sandorski]

The criticisms of the pipeline are legit, but the Jobs argument is legit as well. My country really ought to do more regarding the cleanliness of the Oil, one way to do this would be to cease using Fossil fuels for the Refinement process. Unfortunately, this would most likely involve using Nuclear Power and even if approval was fast tracked it would likely take at least a decade before a Nuclear Plant could even be built. No one has even seriously proposed this though, so it has no bearing on the issue at this moment.

Regardless of what happens in the US on the approval/disapproval of the pipeline, Canada will Sell this Oil. Global Demand is just too high for it not to be sold.

 

[Patranus]

Umm. Hes the one directly blocking it. Nothing partisan about the truth, do try to pay attention

Quiet!

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yes. But you should change that to "The World"