Is there something that can be learned by this years election process?

FlashG

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After all is said and done, we ?the American people? did choose these two Boozo?s to face off.. didn?t we? They are suppose to represent the best America has to offer.

No the sky isn?t falling. I think that a lot of us are waking up to reality and plan on fixing what broke. If we don't, God help us all.
 

BoberFett

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The establishment sucks, vote 3rd party.


Oops, I already knew that. I guess I haven't learned anything.
 

Raspewtin

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<< ? did choose these two Boozo?s to face off.. didn?t we? >>



Actually there are several reasons we have these guys in office that have nothing to do with choice. Bush was one of few who could raise enough money, and he won the Republican primary (i.e. no Independents involved). It's not doubtful that McCain would have done way better on election day. Gore is there b/c he was VP, and no prominent Democrat would run against him (Bradley doesn't count as a significant Democrat IMO). If they inact campaign finance reform, open up the primary system, and change voting to Saturday instead of a weekday, you'd be surprised how different the people's choice would be. And that doesn't even mention the electoral college issue.
 

FlashG

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Raspewtin

That?s exactly my point.

&quot;how different the people's choice would be&quot;

We need to make it OUR choice not the media?s or big business or the unions or....
 

SuperTool

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We should do away with punchcards. We stopped using punchcards for computers long time ago. Time to do same thing for voting.
 

DaBoneHead

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Raspy is correct. We really had little choice.


Let's face it, if the Republican's were to nominate a turkey sandwich as their presidential candidate, some people would actually vote for it.

This is like pavlov's dog, programmed response to stimuli.


In this case, the republican's weren't totally stupid in their candidate choice. The republicans have been out of the oval office for eight years, and they wanted a candidate that was marketable to the people. A candidate with the name &quot;George Bush&quot; would remind people of the last decent man to hold that office. It is like sales and marketing, their candidate had &quot;brand association&quot;.

My father voted for Bush because, in his words, &quot;an apple doesn't fall too far from the tree&quot;. I tried to point out that &quot;this particular apple didn't even land in the same orchard&quot;. However, the gambit probably worked. Alot of people went to the booths and voted for George Herbert Walker Bush via &quot;W&quot;. Again, these people would be the ones to vote for the aforementioned turkey sandwich.

And this is why I always vote the person, and not the party.

Each person should take a good long look at the candidates. No candidate presented (even Nader) was a saint, but Bush has to be the least of them. He is there because of his name, and for no other reason. Oh, if only we had someone like McCain... Or Ventura! :D Jesse for 2004... Who is with me!
 

JellyBaby

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The american people (well, half of us) sent a clear message to Washington: you're doing great! Keep up the good work. Thus the game continues beginning in FL. But when will it end?
 

FlashG

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Another thought,

Whoever does get in, is going to be badgered so bad by the opposing 50% that they actually might be forced to be good president.
 

FlashG

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Another thought,

Whoever does get in, is going to be badgered so bad by the opposing 50% that they actually might be forced to be a good president.
 

Yo Ma Ma

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Depending on how they let the ballots pass through, I think we've learned it could be pretty easy to cheat the system. It seems since they don't throw out the &quot;bad&quot; ballots but do give you another, you could just dimple a few for your candidate, keep asking for a new one, and then finally vote correctly for your person. If it's close at all they'll end up couting the preggos, dangles and dimples from the throw-aways.

Oh, and vote early, vote often :D
 

NicColt

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Your country needs a simpler or idiot proof electoral process like the one we have in Canada.

Yes, Canada created the idiot prood process because we needed it.

Here's how it goes.

1. we vote for 1 level of government at the time. (municipal, provincial or federal)

2. you can vote in early elections, the ballots are received by election date.

3. you have a big sheet with the names and party of the Candidate in big letters and a big empty circle after it.

4. you mark an X in the circle of the candidate your voting for.

5. if you mark an X in two circles your an idiot and don't deserve to vote.

6. your ballot is put into a scanner type device that instantly reads your ballot and tabulates the totals as the ballots are scanned.

7. once the polls close the scanner or ballot box already holds the count totals, no need to count the ballots. whithin minutes of the polls closing the scanner prints a detailed count of the scanned ballots and the data is sent by modem to the central elections office.

8. within minutes the electronic data is certified by the central elections office with the printout by the Polls official.

9. once the polls in the timezones have closed, vote counts certification takes only minutes todo. The certified information is relayed by the central elecions office to the media faster than they can report it.

10. no news media can release data to other time zones under penalty of law (even websites)

11. news media, indicates that &quot;if the present count continues the winner will be&quot; it is left upto the parties to decide at what time to conceide defeat not the news media.