Is there anything sacred about our environment that this admin won't go out of their way to destroy

[hal2kilo]

Apparently, this admin has quietly decided that migratory birds don't need any protection. It's like hunters have priority over everything. Somewhere I also saw that they want to relax the lead bans also.
Shoot them birds.

 

[dank69]

Maybe we can enact a bee hunting season while we are at it.

 

[sandorski]

Not surprised. In before dumping Nuclear Waste into the headwaters of the Mississip.

 

[hal2kilo]

I have no doubt that this is personal with Trump and real estate development. Probably got blocked putting some golf course in where a heron rookery was or something quite similar. I know he's had fits with the EPA on some property he bought in SC that he tried to develop that had hazardous waste issues. Nothing shall be an impediment to Trump making his imaginary fortunes. The man sells his name and for some reason his reputation for a living. That's it.

 

[BoomerD]

Nope. If Obama supported it, he's against it. If doing away with a regulation will make him or his "friends" money...gone.

 

[Homerboy]

Oil

 

[hal2kilo]

Nope. If Obama supported it, he's against it. If doing away with a regulation will make him or his "friends" money...gone.

Well, yes, that's a given, but these agreements well proceed Obama's tenure.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Hunters can shoot birds, liberals cry. So surprised.

The article opens with:
"Under Republican and Democratic presidents from Nixon through Obama, killing migratory birds, even inadvertently, was a crime, with fines for violations ranging from $250 to $100 million."

Ridiculous, you want government to be your god.

 

[UNCjigga]

Hunters can shoot birds, liberals cry. So surprised.

The article opens with:
"Under Republican and Democratic presidents from Nixon through Obama, killing migratory birds, even inadvertently, was a crime, with fines for violations ranging from $250 to $100 million."

Ridiculous, you want government to be your god.

What specifically is your issue with the law as written in 1918 and how it's been interpreted up until Bernhardt's new opinion? You don't want to hold oil companies accountable for inadvertently killing wildlife?

From my take on the article, this has nothing to do with hunting (still illegal to hunt migratory birds.)

 

[K1052]

This whole administration is a massive injection of crony capitalism built on exploitation of the environment and the poor masquerading as populism. Whole agencies are captured by the industries they are supposed to regulate with predictably shitty results for anybody who isn't a shareholder.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hunters can shoot birds, liberals cry. So surprised.

The article opens with:
"Under Republican and Democratic presidents from Nixon through Obama, killing migratory birds, even inadvertently, was a crime, with fines for violations ranging from $250 to $100 million."

Ridiculous, you want government to be your god.

It's not about legal hunters who have licenses & duck stamps. It's about preserving habitat, about oil spills & stuff like that. Hal was mistaken to even mention hunters.

 

[Paladin3]

This story is all about relaxing or removing the penalties for corporations that kill migratory birds. As a hunter that pisses me off when corporations can get away with polluting and destroying wildlife and wild lands. I hope this is challenged, or if it gets pushed through it is repealed when Trump gets kicked out of office in the next election.

I see nothing in it about relaxing the lead shot ban for hunting waterfowl, but I hope that doesn't happen either. We don't need more lead in our wetlands.

And, for the record, many migratory birds are perfectly legal to hunt in season. Migratory Bird Treaty Act

 

[thraashman]

Hunters can shoot birds, liberals cry. So surprised.

The article opens with:
"Under Republican and Democratic presidents from Nixon through Obama, killing migratory birds, even inadvertently, was a crime, with fines for violations ranging from $250 to $100 million."

Ridiculous, you want government to be your god.

At this point if Trump broke into your parents' house and raped your mother, what excuse would you come up with as to why it was ok for him to do it?

 

[Paladin3]

Hunters can shoot birds, liberals cry. So surprised.

The article opens with:
"Under Republican and Democratic presidents from Nixon through Obama, killing migratory birds, even inadvertently, was a crime, with fines for violations ranging from $250 to $100 million."

Ridiculous, you want government to be your god.

What I want government to do is enact common sense laws that keep human/corporate greed in check. Human existence has proven that very few individuals/corporations are capable of resisting the lure of easy money even when it comes at the expense the environment and the greater good.

Government shouldn't be our god, but a thoughtfully applied and carefully controlled federal government with a "do no harm" attitude, and that defaults back to individual and state freedoms unless necessary, is essential to our survival. Don't shit on the only place we have to live seems like common sense to me, so I support government creating laws that prevent such.

 

[thilanliyan]

federal government with a "do no harm" attitude.

That seems to be the exact opposite of the current state of affairs lol.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's not about legal hunters who have licenses & duck stamps. It's about preserving habitat, about oil spills & stuff like that. Hal was mistaken to even mention hunters.

I realized that after my initial post. I internally conflated the hunter thing because I had also recently seen where there was a push by this admin to also to push back on the lead bans.

 

[UNCjigga]

And, for the record, many migratory birds are perfectly legal to hunt in season. Migratory Bird Treaty Act

When is the season for the Canadian Geese that are shitting all over my driveway/walkways??

 

[MomentsofSanity]

When is the season for the Canadian Geese that are shitting all over my driveway/walkways??

Depends where you live . In most of Ontario it's September to December/January each year.

 

[zinfamous]

Hunters can shoot birds, liberals cry. So surprised.

The article opens with:
"Under Republican and Democratic presidents from Nixon through Obama, killing migratory birds, even inadvertently, was a crime, with fines for violations ranging from $250 to $100 million."

Ridiculous, you want government to be your god.

Please live on a different planet. You don't deserve to live on ours, asshole.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Nope. If Obama supported it, he's against it. If doing away with a regulation will make him or his "friends" money...gone.

I choose your perspective over hal2kilo's. The man is such a simpleton, he goes by "rules-of-thumb". If Obama was black, then nothing he did can be right -- Trump must overturn all of it. Second to that, he doesn't read intelligence briefings -- he doesn't read anything. If any "expert" who had the ear of EPA and others ventures an opinion, Trump will reject it without any thought or ado. In fact, I would think the way to get Trump to do something requires that you "advise him" with condescension especially, to do its opposite. So if you want to hasten impeachment, tell him "Don't shoot the migrants!" It would be collateral damage, and quite simply -- Trump's fault and wrongdoing. One needn't feel guilty for advising the proper thing, if the recipient of the advice is a sociopathic, narcissistic, paranoid, amoral and corrupt figment of his own grandiose imagination.

It would be HIS fault. Then impeach the bastard, put him on trial for war-crimes or mass-murder, and hang the Sumbitch in public so that the Base must see it.

Like Col. Kurz said in "Apocalypse Now" -- "Horror has a face...And you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies.

Go like Col. Kurz, and do it guilt-free!

 

[IronWing]

Zinke nixed the lead ban for federal wildlife refuges on day one. Some states have their own lead bans.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

At this point if Trump broke into your parents' house and raped your mother, what excuse would you come up with as to why it was ok for him to do it?

You have to apply the Spidey political policy test: Did it make liberals mad? Good policy.

 

[woolfe9998]

Wait, I thought Trump was a bird lover, isn't he? Here he is lamenting the avian Holocaust caused by windmills.

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/150782/trump-laments-killing-field-birds-created-windmills

 

[brycejones]

This whole administration is a massive injection of crony capitalism built on exploitation of the environment and the poor masquerading as populism. Whole agencies are captured by the industries they are supposed to regulate with predictably shitty results for anybody who isn't a shareholder.

Isn’t amazing how populists never actually do anything that benefits the actual populace?

 

[ch33zw1z]

No.