Is there any way to trick seeds that need to be stratified into growing without stratifying them?

[Eli]

lol.. Picked up some Japanese Five-Needle pine, Yezo Spruce, Bristlecone Pine, Coast Redwood, Blue Atlas Cedar, Nordman Fir, White Spruce, Black Spruce, and Norway Spruce seeds off eBay. Call it spring fever in January. Most of them don't need to be stratified, but some do.

I don't know. I just hate having to put them in the fridge for 3 months, check them for mold periodically, etc.. It seems like there should be a way to trick them into thinking they've gone through winter without actually taking the time.

:frown:

/me becomes Coniferous geneticist

 

[Analog]

Interesting. I had to do the same thing with chestnuts that I wanted to grow. I would be interested in this as well.

 

[Squisher]

Time machine?

I don't know.

What makes you think that some don't need to be stratified?

Try PMing WinstonSmith(Haybusarider) it's his thing.

Most of that stuff is going to grow so very slowly for next few years that I don't think 3 months is going to matter.



BTW-Getting seedlings from arborday.com is uber cheap, next is bluestone perennials. Personally I'm a Waysidegardens kinda guy.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Interesting. I had to do the same thing with chestnuts that I wanted to grow. I would be interested in this as well.

Ahh, Cool..

Yeah, it's a pretty common thing for seeds.

It's genius, when you think about it though.. It helps ensure that the seed will sprout at the correct time.

If they were to sprout just whenever it was warm and moist, many would end up sprouting in the fall of the same year they were fallen..

Which would be certain death to a unestablished seedling, come winter......

Indeed, a few weeks ago we had a warm spell and I saw some Thistle seeds that had been tricked. They were actually still in the seed pod, so they were doomed anyway.. but the ones growing into the dirt didn't fare much better, I'm afraid.

Heh.. We all know the animal kingdom is pretty brutal.. most people don't realize the plant kingdom is, too. There is fierce competition for natural resources.. Instead of kill or be killed, it's grow or be shaded.. lol...

Doesen't being bored at 3:44AM on the second day of 2004 rule?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Squisher
Time machine?

I don't know.

What makes you think that some don't need to be stratified?

Try PMing WinstonSmith(Haybusarider) it's his thing.

Most of that stuff is going to grow so very slowly for next few years that I don't think 3 months is going to matter.



BTW-Getting seedlings from arborday.com is uber cheap, next is bluestone perennials. Personally I'm a Waysidegardens kinda guy.

Cause they don't. I'm not sure why, exactly.

Isn't it cute?!(Bristlecone Pine @ 4 days)

Just think, that tree could live to see the year 6000.

 

[Eli]

 

[badmouse]

My family was part owners of a seed company when I was a kid. I know that there are formulas for this kind of thing - freeze for a while, thaw, freeze, hold at 35 degrees, and so on. One of my chores as a kid was to check the freezers and mark how many days went by so the seeds came out right.

Sorry, don't have a clue as to specifics. So this doesn't help at all.

 

[aircooled]

let me know if you figure out how to turn seeds into fully cured buds in under 3 months

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Ahh, biology question.

What you are talking about is actually vernalization in the context of seeds, however that is splitting botanical hairs


Put the seeds in the fridge, slightly above freezing, and store them DRY. Wrapped in a paper towel is good, not plastic otherwise the embryo can suffocate.

3 weeks ought to do it.