is there any program for music out there.......

aceofskies05

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is there anyprogram out there like limewire but legal. Like a program that downloads music to your hardrive but you still pay, for instance itunes you pay by song, but i would rather pay by subscription? btw i have a ipod
 

DaveSimmons

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Not for an iPod.

Napster.com works well and costs $15 a month for unlimited downloads to your player (as a rental) , but you need a non-iPod to use it.
 

DaveSimmons

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Buy a non-iPod then.

Apple won't let anyone offer a download service to compete with iTunes and they only sell song by song.

There is emusic.com but it only carries small labels. $10 a month for 40 songs.

No one else.
 

keeftea

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Use a Bit Torrent client. Free and all live music is traded openly inc video.

After u Torrent the file, conv to wav, the will go on ur pod.

BTW, i like utorrent for a client
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: aceofskies05
i know waht bittorent is and its still illegal and .wav files are so crappy

Theyre mp3's, and u shoulda bought something non-iPod. Apple it real picky about theyre music.
 

Noema

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Originally posted by: aceofskies05
i know waht bittorent is and its still illegal and .wav files are so crappy


The Torrent client and protocol is not illegal per-se; what's illegal is the distribution of copyrighted material throught it. Most bands and labels DO allow the free distribution of bootlegged recordings of live shows. Even Metallica, infamous for their anti-Napster hijinks in the past offers hundreds of free mp3 downloads from live shows. However the quality is usually quite bad as the recordings are made with low quality devices.

I agree with others; if you have an Ipod you are pretty much stuck with iTunes.

There's however a little trick to play music bought in iTunes music store in non-iPod players. You get the music off iTunes, burn it as an audio CD, and then re-rip it back into mp3 or WMA or whatever.

It should work the other way around: ie, buy the music off another store, burn it into an audio CD and re-rip it into your format of choice. Should work.

It's a bit of a hassle but at least you are not stuck with iTunes.
 

pontifex

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my question is, who are these stupid idiots who are paying subscriptions to download songs when they don't get to own the songs? once your sub is gone, your songs are gone. why would anyone do that?
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: pontifex
my question is, who are these stupid idiots who are paying subscriptions to download songs when they don't get to own the songs? once your sub is gone, your songs are gone. why would anyone do that?
Assuming you don't just steal music,

$15 a month at Napster lets you download 10,000 full CDs if you want, legally. You can listen as often as you want, as many times, and swap out music in your (non-iPod) portable every day if you want.

You can try 100 new artists you've heard about, without ever paying $10 for a CD or $1 for a song. If oyu just kind of like an artist you can listen once in a blue moon without feeling like you wasted $10 on a CD.

Yes, if you stop paying you stop being able to listen, just like with cable TV or blockbuster and Netflix. Big deal. For the artists and CDs you really like you can still buy real CDs too.

Since I don't steal music, my napster subscription would be worth it just to save me from buying 1 weak CD a month. For example I'm a TMBG fan but The Spine was just not my cup of tea. I listened, I didn't buy the CD.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
You can try 100 new artists you've heard about, without ever paying $10 for a CD or $1 for a song. If oyu just kind of like an artist you can listen once in a blue moon without feeling like you wasted $10 on a CD.

Yes, if you stop paying you stop being able to listen, just like with cable TV or blockbuster and Netflix. Big deal. For the artists and CDs you really like you can still buy real CDs too.

Since I don't steal music, my napster subscription would be worth it just to save me from buying 1 weak CD a month. For example I'm a TMBG fan but The Spine was just not my cup of tea. I listened, I didn't buy the CD.

You can try out music in a record shop for free. Napster seems like a raw deal.

 

DaveSimmons

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I often like to listen to a full CD before deciding, and sometimes give it a second listen to see if it grows on me. I don't want to stand in a record shop for 45 or 90 minutes to do that :)

As I said, there are also CDs that I like enough to listen to once in a while, but not enough to want to own.

But to each their own. If the record shop works for you, great.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: pontifex
my question is, who are these stupid idiots who are paying subscriptions to download songs when they don't get to own the songs? once your sub is gone, your songs are gone. why would anyone do that?

The same reason you would rent a movie?
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: pontifex
my question is, who are these stupid idiots who are paying subscriptions to download songs when they don't get to own the songs? once your sub is gone, your songs are gone. why would anyone do that?

The same reason you would rent a movie?

thats different. how many times do you listen to a song/album compared to a movie?
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: pontifex
my question is, who are these stupid idiots who are paying subscriptions to download songs when they don't get to own the songs? once your sub is gone, your songs are gone. why would anyone do that?
Assuming you don't just steal music,

$15 a month at Napster lets you download 10,000 full CDs if you want, legally. You can listen as often as you want, as many times, and swap out music in your (non-iPod) portable every day if you want.

You can try 100 new artists you've heard about, without ever paying $10 for a CD or $1 for a song. If oyu just kind of like an artist you can listen once in a blue moon without feeling like you wasted $10 on a CD.

Yes, if you stop paying you stop being able to listen, just like with cable TV or blockbuster and Netflix. Big deal. For the artists and CDs you really like you can still buy real CDs too.

Since I don't steal music, my napster subscription would be worth it just to save me from buying 1 weak CD a month. For example I'm a TMBG fan but The Spine was just not my cup of tea. I listened, I didn't buy the CD.

i'm not talking about napster. i''m talking about other music services that don't allow you do anything with your music. there seems to be a lot less of the places like napster.