Is there any money in visual basic?

BD2003

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During my summer internship, I've had to learn so many programming languages. Java (not bad, goes a little overboard with objects), C (nice, but damn pointers), JCL/REXX/TSO/COBOL on an IBM mainframe (NIGHTMARE OMG), Unix shell scripting (Bleh), and now finally Visual Basic. VB is really really nice. I can get so much done in so little time. It feels like the program is working with me instead of against me.

Think I can make some cash being a visual basic programmer? Or is it so easy that noone will pay you for it?
 

minendo

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Think I can make some cash being a visual basic programmer? Or is it so easy that noone will pay you for it?
Only if you are working with Visual Studio .Net.
 

JellyBaby

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I read MS said it will support the earlier VB until 2008. MS would like everyone to move to the net stuff because then it would make more money by far but even MS realizes it no longer has that kind of control today.
 

jaeger66

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VB is a great language for interfacing with databases. It's built in data controls are quite robust.
 

BD2003

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Yeah, I've been doing a lot of VB in tandem with access. Whats new with VB.net? Is it the .NET tie ins, or totally new structure?
 

rh71

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Interesting so many people have been anti-MS for being the giant corp they are... but then so many embrace the .NET technology over J2EE stuff.

Websphere baby... Websphere.
 

TNTrulez

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Originally posted by: BD2003
During my summer internship, I've had to learn so many programming languages. Java (not bad, goes a little overboard with objects), C (nice, but damn pointers), JCL/REXX/TSO/COBOL on an IBM mainframe (NIGHTMARE OMG), Unix shell scripting (Bleh), and now finally Visual Basic. VB is really really nice. I can get so much done in so little time. It feels like the program is working with me instead of against me.

Think I can make some cash being a visual basic programmer? Or is it so easy that noone will pay you for it?

Where are you interning at?
 

AmigaMan

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you used to be able to make money with it. Nowadays companies want Java and C++ programmers. VB skills are becoming like HTML skills. You should know it but don't expect to make a living off it.
Of course I realize I am generalizing quite a bit, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who do nothing but VB. But it's not the "hot" language that everyone is looking for.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
you used to be able to make money with it. Nowadays companies want Java and C++ programmers. VB skills are becoming like HTML skills. You should know it but don't expect to make a living off it.
Of course I realize I am generalizing quite a bit, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who do nothing but VB. But it's not the "hot" language that everyone is looking for.

i know java and C/C++ pretty well. but i dont know VB since i've never bothered. is it a good idea to figure this out at some point or is it gonna be a really bad job thing to not really know it ? i dont really see job ads for VB programmers , so i was thinking it'd be better to spend time learning perl or getting better with java.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
you used to be able to make money with it. Nowadays companies want Java and C++ programmers. VB skills are becoming like HTML skills. You should know it but don't expect to make a living off it.
Of course I realize I am generalizing quite a bit, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who do nothing but VB. But it's not the "hot" language that everyone is looking for.
Generalizing a lot maybe! There are more VB programmers than any other language on the planet as far as I know. Don't believe the anti-MS hype. MS is going nowhere and still dominates the market. .Net will do nothing but add more power behind them.

There are not a heck of a lot of VB jobs. There are not a heck of a lot of any IT jobs because IT sucks to get a job in right now. VB is the most popular language at my company now and plenty of people are developing new applications with it. VB skills will never be like HTML because in VB you can't read a page on the net in three hours and know all you're likely to need. VB is king of throwing stuff together and getting it out the door pronto.
 

BD2003

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Personally, I'm more comfortable with C code than with Basic code. But the way Visual C++ builds GUIs and apps was described to me makes it sound like a nightmare compared to VB.

I'm sure theres speed and lots of other advantages to Vis C++ over basic, but VB makes life so much simpler. I can concentrate on writing code and logic instead of fighting with an interface.
 

Wizkid

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Visual Basic.NET and C# basically make C++ pointless for windows development. VB has been completely redone and there are no (afaik) speed or any other advantages to using C++. In fact, MS recommends that you NOT use C++ for new .net projects (waste of time and effort). C# does look pretty good though, it will probably be a hot language for the next few years.
 

Wizkid

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Oh... I work for a very large pharmaceutical company. We have no c++ programs, but TONS of visual basic and vba/wsh programmers.

For internal development I bet it's 99% VB.

Commercial software tends to use C++ though (this may very well change though).
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: bugsysiegel
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Yeah, look how much MS is making from .NET ;)

nik

hehe

:confused:

FFM breaks it down for j0o:

MS makes Visual Basic (.NET)
MS packages it along with superior programs and calls it .NET
MS sells it and makes lots of money from the people who decide that they absolutely have to upgrade now before the price drops in a year or so

Get it now, Ameesh?
 

Descartes

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FFM breaks it down for j0o:

Descartes breaks it down for j0o

MS makes Visual Basic (.NET)

They "make" it? It's a language. VB.NET isn't a program, but the compiler, vbc.exe, is.

MS packages it along with superior programs and calls it .NET

.NET has absolutely nothing to do with programs. .NET isn't a collection of programs in any regard. More on the next point...

MS sells it and makes lots of money from the people who decide that they absolutely have to upgrade now before the price drops in a year or so

MS doesn't sell VB.NET. You can download the entire .NET Framework SDK for free. It contains all the compilers, the FCL, etc. You're confusing VB.NET with Visual Studio.NET.

Get it now, Ameesh?

Get it now, FFM? :)