is there any "legal reason" for doing a rolling stop at a stop sign?

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Originally posted by: Rogue
If they wanted you to conduct a "rolling stop" they would put a Yield sign there instead, not a stop sign. There is no legally justifiable reason for not coming to a complete stop for 1-2 seconds as required by law in most states. The officer was asking one of those questions that only had one answer to it, too bad you didn't answer it correctly by stating "No officer, there is no reason. I'm sorry, it won't happen again."

Legally you're right. Morally I have no qualms about rolling many/most stop signs. Similar to how I don't always drive at the speed limit.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Ask him why he doesn't feel guilty wasting time because you went 1mph through a stop. Worthless God damn cops wasting OUR TAX DOLLARS.

Actually, they are GENERATING money for the city by fining people. The cop is paid only maybe $20/hour (max. I don't know what it really is), then maybe $10/hour for the car and stuff, that is like $50 profit for an $80 ticket.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: GhettoFob
"my brakes don't work"

That's an additional ticket for faulty equipment, here in OR. If you don't come to a full and complete stop (i.e. wheels not moving), cops usuall tag you in residential areas. They're a little more lax near main thoroughfares, but still. Why chance it? What's the big rush? Why can't anyone make a full and complete stop? There's really no reason not to stop.

Because its unnecessary, excessive wear and tear on my car, it wastes fuel, and wastes time. And if there is a line of cars behind you, it affects all of them, too.

When making a right turn, I rarely come to a full stop at stop signs on my regular routes. In those cases, since I know the roads, I know that the potential of an accident is very low, and I know that cops never sit around watching for it, I see no reason to come to a complete stop. Now if I'm in an area where I'm unfamiliar, is heavily trafficked, or I'm making a left turn, then I make a full stop.

You know what my relatives from Germany said when they visited here? Too many stop signs! The yield sign is a wonderful thing.

I don't remember the percent, but a majority of accidents occur within 1 to 2 miles from home because of the reasons you specified. You know the area and know the traffic. One day you just assume it's clear (like every other day) and BAM. It's a fact.

 

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Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: GhettoFob
"my brakes don't work"

That's an additional ticket for faulty equipment, here in OR. If you don't come to a full and complete stop (i.e. wheels not moving), cops usuall tag you in residential areas. They're a little more lax near main thoroughfares, but still. Why chance it? What's the big rush? Why can't anyone make a full and complete stop? There's really no reason not to stop.

Because its unnecessary, excessive wear and tear on my car, it wastes fuel, and wastes time. And if there is a line of cars behind you, it affects all of them, too.

When making a right turn, I rarely come to a full stop at stop signs on my regular routes. In those cases, since I know the roads, I know that the potential of an accident is very low, and I know that cops never sit around watching for it, I see no reason to come to a complete stop. Now if I'm in an area where I'm unfamiliar, is heavily trafficked, or I'm making a left turn, then I make a full stop.

You know what my relatives from Germany said when they visited here? Too many stop signs! The yield sign is a wonderful thing.

I don't remember the percent, but a majority of accidents occur within 1 to 2 miles from home because of the reasons you specified. You know the area and know the traffic. One day you just assume it's clear (like every other day) and BAM. It's a fact.

It's a fact many occur close to home, but not necessarily for those reasons. It may be simply because so many damn miles are driven close to home...any time you go out, or go to the store, etc.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: GhettoFob
"my brakes don't work"

That's an additional ticket for faulty equipment, here in OR. If you don't come to a full and complete stop (i.e. wheels not moving), cops usuall tag you in residential areas. They're a little more lax near main thoroughfares, but still. Why chance it? What's the big rush? Why can't anyone make a full and complete stop? There's really no reason not to stop.

Because its unnecessary, excessive wear and tear on my car, it wastes fuel, and wastes time. And if there is a line of cars behind you, it affects all of them, too.

When making a right turn, I rarely come to a full stop at stop signs on my regular routes. In those cases, since I know the roads, I know that the potential of an accident is very low, and I know that cops never sit around watching for it, I see no reason to come to a complete stop. Now if I'm in an area where I'm unfamiliar, is heavily trafficked, or I'm making a left turn, then I make a full stop.

You know what my relatives from Germany said when they visited here? Too many stop signs! The yield sign is a wonderful thing.

I don't remember the percent, but a majority of accidents occur within 1 to 2 miles from home because of the reasons you specified. You know the area and know the traffic. One day you just assume it's clear (like every other day) and BAM. It's a fact.

It's a fact many occur close to home, but not necessarily for those reasons. It may be simply because so many damn miles are driven close to home...any time you go out, or go to the store, etc.

That is true, but I'm sure that what I said contributes as well. Think of your last drive to work. Do you remember the first mile or two of the drive? Any of the drive?

 

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That is true, but I'm sure that what I said contributes as well. Think of your last drive to work. Do you remember the first mile or two of the drive? Any of the drive?

Well I do but I'll admit that if I was going to pick an area to be less cautious it would be close to home, since I'm so used to it!

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: GhettoFob
"my brakes don't work"

That's an additional ticket for faulty equipment, here in OR. If you don't come to a full and complete stop (i.e. wheels not moving), cops usuall tag you in residential areas. They're a little more lax near main thoroughfares, but still. Why chance it? What's the big rush? Why can't anyone make a full and complete stop? There's really no reason not to stop.

Because its unnecessary, excessive wear and tear on my car, it wastes fuel, and wastes time. And if there is a line of cars behind you, it affects all of them, too.

When making a right turn, I rarely come to a full stop at stop signs on my regular routes. In those cases, since I know the roads, I know that the potential of an accident is very low, and I know that cops never sit around watching for it, I see no reason to come to a complete stop. Now if I'm in an area where I'm unfamiliar, is heavily trafficked, or I'm making a left turn, then I make a full stop.

You know what my relatives from Germany said when they visited here? Too many stop signs! The yield sign is a wonderful thing.

I don't remember the percent, but a majority of accidents occur within 1 to 2 miles from home because of the reasons you specified. You know the area and know the traffic. One day you just assume it's clear (like every other day) and BAM. It's a fact.

Meh. I've heard that too, but it doesn't really bother me. The thought of a 25 mph hit in a residential zone, somehow just doesn't frighten me.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: GhettoFob
"my brakes don't work"

That's an additional ticket for faulty equipment, here in OR. If you don't come to a full and complete stop (i.e. wheels not moving), cops usuall tag you in residential areas. They're a little more lax near main thoroughfares, but still. Why chance it? What's the big rush? Why can't anyone make a full and complete stop? There's really no reason not to stop.

Because its unnecessary, excessive wear and tear on my car, it wastes fuel, and wastes time. And if there is a line of cars behind you, it affects all of them, too.

When making a right turn, I rarely come to a full stop at stop signs on my regular routes. In those cases, since I know the roads, I know that the potential of an accident is very low, and I know that cops never sit around watching for it, I see no reason to come to a complete stop. Now if I'm in an area where I'm unfamiliar, is heavily trafficked, or I'm making a left turn, then I make a full stop.

You know what my relatives from Germany said when they visited here? Too many stop signs! The yield sign is a wonderful thing.

I don't remember the percent, but a majority of accidents occur within 1 to 2 miles from home because of the reasons you specified. You know the area and know the traffic. One day you just assume it's clear (like every other day) and BAM. It's a fact.

Meh. I've heard that too, but it doesn't really bother me. The thought of a 25 mph hit in a residential zone, somehow just doesn't frighten me.

I got rearended in a 25 mph zone (I was stopped, she was moving) and it totaled both cars. I think she was speeding, but trust me, it was not cool.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

the ones i got caught at were like the ones skoorb is talking about, its a residencial neighborhood and I was on the main road and there are numerous smaller roads. it was the middle of sunday afternoon and there were no cars in sight so when i got down to 1-3 miles per hour and saw this i just went.

The next 4 way stop there was a car coming, so i stopped let him go...the coppers must have been behind me at this point because it was right after that intersection i saw the lights.

and i did tell the cop that I knew what i had done was wrong.

 

[AvesPKS]

Nobody in Chicago stops at stop signs unless there's someone else at the intersection.