is there any "legal reason" for doing a rolling stop at a stop sign?

[MrDingleDangle]

I got live off a small side street and there are 4 way stops every intersection, which arent far apart from each other...the other day i got a ticket for a "rolling stop", going down to about 1 or 2 miles an hour seeing no one anywhere near and going.

well a cop was parked behind a car on one of the side streets and pulled me over and gave me a ticket...before he did he asked "is there any legal reason that i did that"

i tried to think off the fly of any legal reason i could, but couldnt think of anything

 

[thirtythree]

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[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
I got live off a small side street and there are 4 way stops every intersection, which arent far apart from each other...the other day i got a ticket for a "rolling stop", going down to about 1 or 2 miles an hour seeing no one anywhere near and going.

well a cop was parked behind a car on one of the side streets and pulled me over and gave me a ticket...before he did he asked "is there any legal reason that i did that"

i tried to think off the fly of any legal reason i could, but couldnt think of anything

I believe in some parts of the country it's legal to do rolling stops after certain times because of carjackings. I'm sure I heard about this in CA a few years ago. Coule be wrong though.

 

[GhettoFob]

"my brakes don't work"

 

[syee]

yeah...I got busted for doing that one time and got a nice $80 ticket for it (that was Canadian)...

Can't think of any legal reason to tell the cop tho...I guess you could try get a rise out of him by telling him you were helping him meet his monthly ticket quota. 🙂

I don't see any reason why someone can't come to a rolling stop at a stop sign...I mean if you've checked for pedestrians and oncoming cars and you've slowed down to a reasonable speed, I don't see why someone would have to come to a complete stop... 🙁

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: GhettoFob
"my brakes don't work"

That's an additional ticket for faulty equipment, here in OR. If you don't come to a full and complete stop (i.e. wheels not moving), cops usuall tag you in residential areas. They're a little more lax near main thoroughfares, but still. Why chance it? What's the big rush? Why can't anyone make a full and complete stop? There's really no reason not to stop.

 

[The Stigenator]

that's why i always come to first gear before taking off.. if tehy stop me for it, i can say i had to get off first which means i had to come to a stop before i can pop it in first.. hence it wasnt a rolling stop.. technically it would be that i didnt stop for the required time of 1-2 seconds.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: The_good_guy
that's why i always come to first gear before taking off.. if tehy stop me for it, i can say i had to get off first which means i had to come to a stop before i can pop it in first.. hence it wasnt a rolling stop.. technically it would be that i didnt stop for the required time of 1-2 seconds.

Wtf are you talking about


you dont have to stop a car to put it in first

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: The_good_guy
that's why i always come to first gear before taking off.. if tehy stop me for it, i can say i had to get off first which means i had to come to a stop before i can pop it in first.. hence it wasnt a rolling stop.. technically it would be that i didnt stop for the required time of 1-2 seconds.

Here in OR, there's no time that you have to stay stopped. You could, in theory, perform instant deceleration at a stop sign followed by instant acceleration -if it were possible- and the law would technically be on your side. 😀 Anyway, my truck doesn't require me to be stopped in order to shift into first. No car does. That defeats the idea of a transmission. Granted you have to be going fairly slowly to avoid potentially doing damage. But if you're in trouble without breaks, power-breaking would be useless without being able to downshift into first.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
I got live off a small side street and there are 4 way stops every intersection, which arent far apart from each other...the other day i got a ticket for a "rolling stop", going down to about 1 or 2 miles an hour seeing no one anywhere near and going.

well a cop was parked behind a car on one of the side streets and pulled me over and gave me a ticket...before he did he asked "is there any legal reason that i did that"

i tried to think off the fly of any legal reason i could, but couldnt think of anything

I believe in some parts of the country it's legal to do rolling stops after certain times because of carjackings. I'm sure I heard about this in CA a few years ago. Coule be wrong though.

its called "lock your doors"

if someone decides to bash your window in with a crowbar, you have bigger problems than an $80 ticket, and you will WANT the cop to see.

 

[Mill]

I rarely stop at this one stop sign coming from the end of my subdivision to the road. If you do stop at it you have a good chance of getting rear-ended or being unable to merge. Only time people stop is when traffic is coming. Then you are screwed for a good bit. It is better in this circumstance to slow to about 20mph and then gun it if traffic allows. Any stop signs in neighborhoods or other areas I stop at. In fact, I believe that might be the only stop sign(other than a similar one to mine by my friend's house) that I don't stop at. I always stop at redlights regardless.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Mill
I rarely stop at this one stop sign coming from the end of my subdivision to the road. If you do stop at it you have a good chance of getting rear-ended or being unable to merge. Only time people stop is when traffic is coming. Then you are screwed for a good bit. It is better in this circumstance to slow to about 20mph and then gun it if traffic allows. Any stop signs in neighborhoods or other areas I stop at. In fact, I believe that might be the only stop sign(other than a similar one to mine by my friend's house) that I don't stop at. I always stop at redlights regardless.

Actually, the only sensible thing would be to petition the city to improve traffic control at that intersection. That's ridiculous.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: The_good_guy
that's why i always come to first gear before taking off.. if tehy stop me for it, i can say i had to get off first which means i had to come to a stop before i can pop it in first.. hence it wasnt a rolling stop.. technically it would be that i didnt stop for the required time of 1-2 seconds.

Wtf are you talking about


you dont have to stop a car to put it in first

SHUSH! THE COPPERS MIGHT BE ON THE OTHER LINE! 😉

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Ask him why he doesn't feel guilty wasting time because you went 1mph through a stop. Worthless God damn cops wasting OUR TAX DOLLARS.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
I got live off a small side street and there are 4 way stops every intersection, which arent far apart from each other...the other day i got a ticket for a "rolling stop", going down to about 1 or 2 miles an hour seeing no one anywhere near and going.

well a cop was parked behind a car on one of the side streets and pulled me over and gave me a ticket...before he did he asked "is there any legal reason that i did that"

i tried to think off the fly of any legal reason i could, but couldnt think of anything

I believe in some parts of the country it's legal to do rolling stops after certain times because of carjackings. I'm sure I heard about this in CA a few years ago. Coule be wrong though.

its called "lock your doors"

if someone decides to bash your window in with a crowbar, you have bigger problems than an $80 ticket, and you will WANT the cop to see.

Yes, defenitely better to stop so they can bash in your window in the first place. Always thinking.

 

[dolph]

i've never heard of a legal reason to get out of making a rolling stop. both of my parents have received tickets for rolling stops around my house, so i'm pretty cautious about it

 

[slick230]

Don't take my word for it, but I heard that if there is already a car in front of you at the stop sign when you pull up, and they have stopped and looked and there are obviously no cars coming, then you don't have to come to a complete stop. 😕

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
I got live off a small side street and there are 4 way stops every intersection, which arent far apart from each other...the other day i got a ticket for a "rolling stop", going down to about 1 or 2 miles an hour seeing no one anywhere near and going.

well a cop was parked behind a car on one of the side streets and pulled me over and gave me a ticket...before he did he asked "is there any legal reason that i did that"

i tried to think off the fly of any legal reason i could, but couldnt think of anything

I believe in some parts of the country it's legal to do rolling stops after certain times because of carjackings. I'm sure I heard about this in CA a few years ago. Coule be wrong though.

its called "lock your doors"

if someone decides to bash your window in with a crowbar, you have bigger problems than an $80 ticket, and you will WANT the cop to see.

Yes, defenitely better to stop so they can bash in your window in the first place. Always thinking.

yes, the world is out to get me, so i must ignore traffic signs and vehicle safety and increase my chance of running someone over because of the off-chance that a lunatic with a crowbar is going to smash my window

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Mill
I rarely stop at this one stop sign coming from the end of my subdivision to the road. If you do stop at it you have a good chance of getting rear-ended or being unable to merge. Only time people stop is when traffic is coming. Then you are screwed for a good bit. It is better in this circumstance to slow to about 20mph and then gun it if traffic allows. Any stop signs in neighborhoods or other areas I stop at. In fact, I believe that might be the only stop sign(other than a similar one to mine by my friend's house) that I don't stop at. I always stop at redlights regardless.

Actually, the only sensible thing would be to petition the city to improve traffic control at that intersection. That's ridiculous.

I'm out in the county. They can't even keep the roads up... they aren't going to put a light on this road.

 

[Jzero]

I read somewhere that in PA, in order for a stop sign to be legal there has to have been an engineering study done to justify that there is enough average cars per hour to warrant it, and it has to have been placed by PennDOT.

And as a result of this, many of the stop signs you find in your average PA town are actually illegal.

 

[StageLeft]

My subdivision has about 5 4-way stops in a 20 mph zone. Needless to say I never, ever, stop at them. It should really be stop signs for those trying to get on to the main road, but some time ago they introduced a 4 way because people were speeding through. As with most 4 way stops, especially in the case where it's a 20 mph zone, there is no real need to stop at the stop sign. I see it as a right-of-way. If nobody is coming from the other direction I will slow down to anywhere from 5-15, depending on which 4-way I'm at. There are often cops looking but I know where they sit and I generally slow down just enough to stop if one is there. It infurates me to see sheep behind the wheel of a car stopping down to zero and waiting for 3 seconds just to be sure that their eyes aren't deceiving them and that there is in fact nobody else coming. Sad.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Jzero
I read somewhere that in PA, in order for a stop sign to be legal there has to have been an engineering study done to justify that there is enough average cars per hour to warrant it, and it has to have been placed by PennDOT.

And as a result of this, many of the stop signs you find in your average PA town are actually illegal.

Start thieving. 😎

 

[jjones]

Ha, rolling stops are a way of life down here in Mexico. Actually, they are more like running stops than rolling stops. If you were to actually stop, you'd probably get rear ended.

 

[Rogue]

If they wanted you to conduct a "rolling stop" they would put a Yield sign there instead, not a stop sign. There is no legally justifiable reason for not coming to a complete stop for 1-2 seconds as required by law in most states. The officer was asking one of those questions that only had one answer to it, too bad you didn't answer it correctly by stating "No officer, there is no reason. I'm sorry, it won't happen again."

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: GhettoFob
"my brakes don't work"

That's an additional ticket for faulty equipment, here in OR. If you don't come to a full and complete stop (i.e. wheels not moving), cops usuall tag you in residential areas. They're a little more lax near main thoroughfares, but still. Why chance it? What's the big rush? Why can't anyone make a full and complete stop? There's really no reason not to stop.

Because its unnecessary, excessive wear and tear on my car, it wastes fuel, and wastes time. And if there is a line of cars behind you, it affects all of them, too.

When making a right turn, I rarely come to a full stop at stop signs on my regular routes. In those cases, since I know the roads, I know that the potential of an accident is very low, and I know that cops never sit around watching for it, I see no reason to come to a complete stop. Now if I'm in an area where I'm unfamiliar, is heavily trafficked, or I'm making a left turn, then I make a full stop.

You know what my relatives from Germany said when they visited here? Too many stop signs! The yield sign is a wonderful thing.