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Is there an encryption software that is a database/file setup?

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racerstodeath

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I am looking for a software encryption program that acts something similar to Itunes or Picasa. The software would convert the files into a meaningless file type with random file names. The software would then act as a database/view of the encrypted files.

I would like to have this since the files can then be uploaded onto dropbox or a cloud backup vendor without the worry of anyone viewing the files (yes, they have all access to all your files unless it's encrypted). Also, traditional encryption software like Truecypt and Bitlocker would allow a hacker to have access those files when you are trying to back up to a third party vendor which can take months if you have a slow upload connection. Having it encrypted in the software levels means the hacker would have no idea what files are important and what files are needed in order to complete an archive even if they are on the host machine or if they are on a remote connection.

I have searched for a long time now and haven't been able to find something like this. There are file hiding programs, which won't allow for incremental backups or zip/7z programs but gets complicated when you are dealing with hundreds of files.

So this is what I am looking for....

Bitlocker, entire partition
Software Encryption, specific files/folders

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
I don't understand, why wouldn't a truecrypt container work? Because they'd have access while it's unlocked and mounted as a drive? Only if your machine is compromised...
 
well the problem with truecrypt would be that the container wouldn't because backing it up means the whole container needs to be backed up...

a 100GB container would mean a reupload the entire 100GB container, at 10mbps that would take forever and the container will not be properly backed up
 
You might be able to do something clever with gpg, scripting, and a spreadsheet. The requirement for gibberish file names adds complexity, and not much security imo.
 
What about putting the files into a zip/rar/7z archive with a password? If you put it in a password protected zip, then put that protected zip in a password protected rar, then put that protected rar in a password protected 7z, that would really mess people up I think. I did something like that with some files in Dos and it was easy for me to extract them using a batch file if you program it to unzip all the passwords in sequence. Maybe using a 4th and 5th encryption type would help too. I might be totally off the mark with if this can work with what you're trying to do though :awe:
 
lxskllr said:
You might be able to do something clever with gpg, scripting, and a spreadsheet. The requirement for gibberish file names adds complexity, and not much security imo.
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well... i'll look into that... i think the files names doesn't need to be gibberish but can be a sequential file name... it's just doesn't make sense to me how some file encryption software allows for file structure viewing...allowing one to see the file names inside a of the folder can be just as bad security wise...

What about putting the files into a zip/rar/7z archive with a password? If you put it in a password protected zip, then put that protected zip in a password protected rar, then put that protected rar in a password protected 7z, that would really mess people up I think. I did something like that with some files in Dos and it was easy for me to extract them using a batch file if you program it to unzip all the passwords in sequence. Maybe using a 4th and 5th encryption type would help too. I might be totally off the mark with if this can work with what you're trying to do though
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that would work for a small amount of files but we have over 10 TB of data that we like to secure, archive, back up and prevent theft of... remember that daily access must still be maintained during business hours...

Thanks for the responses by the way, i really hope for a off the shelf solution and I am surprised by the lack of one so far!
 
racerstodeath said:
well the problem with truecrypt would be that the container wouldn't because backing it up means the whole container needs to be backed up...

a 100GB container would mean a reupload the entire 100GB container, at 10mbps that would take forever and the container will not be properly backed up
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According to dropbox, they do differential syncs. So only the changed parts of the file/container should be transferred. I know this works for me (on a much smaller scale anyway). When I update some program code for example, and I overwrite the existing program zip on dropbox, the sync takes far less time than a full upload does.

https://www.dropbox.com/help/8/en

100GB data of dropbox is kinda pricey anyway, isn't it? You could also try something like crashplan, for which you can add your own encryption key to augment security.
 
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Gooberlx2 said:
According to dropbox, they do differential syncs. So only the changed parts of the file/container should be transferred.

https://www.dropbox.com/help/8/en

100GB data of dropbox is kinda pricey anyway, isn't it? You could also try something like crashplan, for which you can add your own encryption key to ensure security.
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Yes, i am using crashplan but I don't know if they do incremental back ups like dropbox.

I actually found a software that does 80% of what I want to do. Protectorion is a file system level encryption software that encrypts the file and stores it as an encrypted file with no file structure or file names. It allows for a password access to the files but does not offer on the fly decryption. Therefore, the program takes a while to decrypt the file if it's anything over 50 mb or so.

If it had a thumbnail view and on the fly decryption, it would be 100% of what I am looking for. So the search keeps on. 😀
 
If thats the case, I'll see if Truecrypt can do what I want it to do. I was thinking that they would have to reupload the whole entire container since it's encrypted. I'll play with it and see.. Thanks for that information...
 
racerstodeath said:
If thats the case, I'll see if Truecrypt can do what I want it to do. I was thinking that they would have to reupload the whole entire container since it's encrypted. I'll play with it and see.. Thanks for that information...
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When you think about it, it behooves the companies offering these cloud service to implement incremental backups, delta backups, deduplication, etc... elsewise they're just costing you and, more importantly, themselves more bandwidth and storage than is necessary.
 
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