is there an easy way to get and HDMI input?
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Wait. What do you want to do? Does your display have speakers of some sort? HDMI carries audio as well as video. You can get a PC HDTV tuner, either a card or a USB tuner also.
Most US cable providers transmit their locals over QAM and can be picked up by PC digital tuners. You won't be able to get the premiums (at least not until the cable-card models come out), but it should work for your local channels. Then you'll be able to watch them (and record them) on your display. PC digital tuners are cheap enough now so it might be worth a shot.
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Right..I actually work at a cable company so I know a little about this.
I will have an HD cable box very soon. I want to use my monitor as a display for that. The problem is mainly sound. I can run HDMI to my monitor and then dig coax to my soundcard but that leaves the problem of having to run one program for sound but I would have to have the monitor on a separate input for the video.
I was hoping there was a video card/tuner something that would allow me to run the HDMI in so I could control video and sound from my computer.
Does that make sense? I can't be the only one who wanted to use a monitor with an HD box.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2
I assume your soundcard has some sort of digital audio input? There really isn't much you can do here. At least if you buy the digital tuner card it will handle everything at once (except for the premiums). Would a HDMI/digital audio switch help (link)?
I assume your soundcard has some sort of digital audio input? There really isn't much you can do here. At least if you buy the digital tuner card it will handle everything at once (except for the premiums). Would a HDMI/digital audio switch help (link)?
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Recording shows isn't that big of a deal, I have 2 DVR's for that. This is for my bedroom. My computer is at the end of my bed so I want to be able to watch TV at night on my monitor and have the sound come through my speakers. I know I can use a TV tuner for basic/expanded channels but I have literally every channel that is offered and want access to those above 99.
Your soundcard/motherboard must have some sort of aux audio input (be it digital or analog), just plug the HDMI into your display and then the audio output from the cable box to your soundcard. Just turn it on/off using "Recording Devices" from the audio mixer.
taltamir
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then it is a good thing I asked, I never would have guessed that is what you wanted...
question... does your monitor has multiple inputs which are easily switched? Just get a regular TV tuner from the cable company, plug it to your monitor, and switch inputs.
AFAIK what you want is impossible because of the RIAA and MPAA.
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So its looking like a 2nd monitor is going to be a must. Otherwise I wouldn't have access to volume controls. Oh darn, now I might have to pick up a small touch screen one. Hmmm....
The RIAA or MPAA don't have much to do with this. All the decoding will be done by my cable box and I'm not looking to record on my computer.
I did find this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-049-_-Product
which I really want to play with. The only thing is that it only works with their software, which is never good.
taltamir
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ok wait... you want to have a cable box in the room, go from cable box to PC, and from PC to monitor? Then I misunderstood what you were asking. I thought you said you DON'T want a cable box, and where the PC acts the cable box (aka, the PC be the decoder)
why not just directly from cable box to monitor?
And when I said "regular TV tuner" I misspoke, I meant to say "regular cable box"
btw, this looks pertinent: http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-T...back-into-your-Crippled-Verizon-DVR/td-p/4757
Also, RIAA, MPAA and other so called "content owners" have pushed and actually managed to get HDCP DRM mandated by law (for a short period of time, it was struck down), and pushed for other legal crap that IS the ONLY reason why you can't just easily buy a PCI card for your computer that takes in TV signals and lets you do whatever you want with them. Sure capture cards EXIST, but there are a variety of DRM issues to work through.
why not just directly from cable box to monitor?
And when I said "regular TV tuner" I misspoke, I meant to say "regular cable box"
btw, this looks pertinent: http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-T...back-into-your-Crippled-Verizon-DVR/td-p/4757
Also, RIAA, MPAA and other so called "content owners" have pushed and actually managed to get HDCP DRM mandated by law (for a short period of time, it was struck down), and pushed for other legal crap that IS the ONLY reason why you can't just easily buy a PCI card for your computer that takes in TV signals and lets you do whatever you want with them. Sure capture cards EXIST, but there are a variety of DRM issues to work through.
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Simply typing in "record hdmi" into google brought up this article from 2006
http://hd.engadget.com/2006/09/13/hdmi-capture-card-for-249/
A quick search of amazon found this
http://www.amazon.com/Blackmagic-Des.../dp/B001CN9GEA
granted this is for recording. Otherwise simply plugging the hdmi to your monitor and whatever sound output to your sound card will work for viewing.
http://hd.engadget.com/2006/09/13/hdmi-capture-card-for-249/
A quick search of amazon found this
http://www.amazon.com/Blackmagic-Des.../dp/B001CN9GEA
granted this is for recording. Otherwise simply plugging the hdmi to your monitor and whatever sound output to your sound card will work for viewing.
taltamir
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1. check out those horror stories in the comments
2. it doesn't strip HDCP... sure it will record HDMI... but not from TV, DVD, etc... thats all HDCP... it has to be HDCP less source. Which, as you notice, one of the persons had...
component is HDCP free, none of that DRM crap in component or composite.. you can use a card that converts component or composite to HDMI, and then feed that HDMI into the capture card (that is literally how the people who commented on that HDMI capture card captured their TV)...
Of course that is a colossal waste and roundabout method... I would just look for a capture card that has component input.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...apture&x=0&y=0
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http://www.amazon.com/Avertv-Definit.../dp/B002SQE1O0
There are such things as HDMI capture cards. I don't know if this one will suit your purposes but they exist.
There are such things as HDMI capture cards. I don't know if this one will suit your purposes but they exist.
kalrith
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As already said, you'll send the video via HDMI to your monitor and the audio via a digital or analog connection to inputs on your video card. This means that you'll have to have your PC on and the inputs unmuted in order for the sound to work (unless you have speakers on your monitor).
If the problem is only one HDMI port on your monitor, then get an HDMI switch: http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10110
If the problem is only one HDMI port on your monitor, then get an HDMI switch: http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10110
Could you use the component connections instead of hdmi? Won't be quite as good quality but pretty close, and I think lots of capture cards have component in.
If you want surround sound then that also won't really work. Maybe optical in?
If you want surround sound then that also won't really work. Maybe optical in?
taltamir
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component is NOT lower quality than HDMI. HDMI/DVI uses shitty pseudo-digital implementation that was roughly hacked together and is not in any way superior. I do say use component.
I've used component and it looks great. However, it's still an analog connection which means it needs to get converted twice. VGA connections are analog too but usually comparable to digital connections depending on the quality of the converters on both ends.
Also component tops out at 1080i* even though it might not matter.
*Last time I checked. Looks like it might not be the case anymore?
taltamir
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Every signal has to be converted... the only questions are:
1. The quality of the conversion (can be lossless)
2. The quality of the transmission
Admittedly the quality of conversion for DVI/HDMI is better, but I don't think a human can tell the difference.
It is easy to assume that HDMI is better because it claims to be digital, but its simply not the case. DVI/HDMI has a crappy transmission method, one more akin to that of analog connections. If you want a proper transmission of data you should get display port which provides actual packet based data transmission.
component can do 1080p, the conversion and transmission does not produce a human detectable degradation, and in fact produces superior quality image with cables over 10 meters compared to DVI (because DVI starts artifacting at those lengths)... most importantly, it can NOT transmit any HDCP crap, so the biggest source of problems and quality degradation (the DRM) is de facto removed. This makes component the superior standard.
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kalrith
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Component can do 1080p, but in the U.S. (and possibly other countries) copyright protection prohibits component from playing BDs in 1080p. That's why many people think that component can't do 1080p; rather, it's not allowed to.
Console systems and possibly STBs can do 1080p over component. Many STBs don't do 1080p regardless of what cable you use.
Console systems and possibly STBs can do 1080p over component. Many STBs don't do 1080p regardless of what cable you use.
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