I've noticed that since i played DDR ,, i've gotten better at other games as well, is there a formal way to decrease response time. Like practices..etc???
Is there a way to Increase human response time
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I agree that practice is really the only way you can get better or be faster.
I think a lot of the problem is the required distance we must move our fingers/arms/legs/etc. before we can make a change to what we are doing. The distance required to depress a button on a controller is fairly large. You receive and process the signal that someone just popped around a corner and is about to blow a hole in your kevlar helmet in less than 1/4 of a second IIRC, but it then takes time for the message to propogate to your fingers and even more time for the muscles to start contracting and begin pressing the button. You are looking at upwards of 1/2 a second to start causing something to happen, and after that you have a limitation on human capability if you actually aimed correctly. Don't forget about transmission time over the internet as well.
Hey, you asked for highly technical.
I think a lot of the problem is the required distance we must move our fingers/arms/legs/etc. before we can make a change to what we are doing. The distance required to depress a button on a controller is fairly large. You receive and process the signal that someone just popped around a corner and is about to blow a hole in your kevlar helmet in less than 1/4 of a second IIRC, but it then takes time for the message to propogate to your fingers and even more time for the muscles to start contracting and begin pressing the button. You are looking at upwards of 1/2 a second to start causing something to happen, and after that you have a limitation on human capability if you actually aimed correctly. Don't forget about transmission time over the internet as well.
Hey, you asked for highly technical.
well if your desperate, then drugs lol, but yep training and practice will be the real way to increase it
You will probably want to look into the response drills sprinters do, to train them to react to the starting gun.
High profile races usually have sensors in the starting blocks to tell if they anticipated the gun. There is a big controversy over wether or not someone can be disqualified if they actually started after the gun, but before a minimal response time. Some people believe humans can only react so fast, and if you react under 100 milliseconds or so (don't remember what thier definition of minimal is), you were actually anticipating, not reacting, and the race is declared a false start.
High profile races usually have sensors in the starting blocks to tell if they anticipated the gun. There is a big controversy over wether or not someone can be disqualified if they actually started after the gun, but before a minimal response time. Some people believe humans can only react so fast, and if you react under 100 milliseconds or so (don't remember what thier definition of minimal is), you were actually anticipating, not reacting, and the race is declared a false start.
Just as an addendum (since its not a direct answer to the question) being a gamer too ive looked into this issue a bit.
You can find simple reaction testers on the web, eg press button when red square shows. I remember my best scores around 220-250ms which is just the good side of average, no matter how hard I tried I couldnt beat 220 however even the sharpest gamers on the rounds at the time had difficulty bettering 180ms, some being younger guys in top clans playing regularly, guys that live and die by the difference in mouseclick time.
Bear in mind that the game would be run locally from the browser so no netlag or connection issues would cloud the results.
You can find simple reaction testers on the web, eg press button when red square shows. I remember my best scores around 220-250ms which is just the good side of average, no matter how hard I tried I couldnt beat 220 however even the sharpest gamers on the rounds at the time had difficulty bettering 180ms, some being younger guys in top clans playing regularly, guys that live and die by the difference in mouseclick time.
Bear in mind that the game would be run locally from the browser so no netlag or connection issues would cloud the results.
Well practice is important but there are people who go through motions and ones that focus on specifics.
I did high school track and had countless school, conference, and section records. As well as a state championship and the honor of being called the fastest in the section for football. Why becuase I had a classic touch coach. You can sit there and every day and run 100's or 120's and you will get faster but essentially you aren't getting the best practice.
Before we ran we would do fast arms, fast legs. Focus on these getting faster before we ran. We would do starts and try to improve 10 meter start times. A very important factor in a 100 meter and 200 meter race. Plus various other focus excersizes.
So lets take this to the geek side of things. Let say you wan't to be a better FPS player.
-Use only a specific weapon(pistol, sniper rifle or even grenages.
-practice throw a grenade and switch to primary.
-etc
Its about understanding the mechanics of what you are doing. So lets say you want to get better at DDR a couple things will work.
-Get style learn to move to sound not just tap on a arrow when its time.
-Do leg work. put an arm against the wall and move ur leg as fast as u can in an up and out running motion
-stretch for better flexibility and your response time decreases.
-12 pack of mountain dew doesnt hydrate you so put down the 12 pack and pick up some dasani water. Even for FPS you cant beat being hydrated your more there mentally. just drink a 6 pack of MD : )
use the info and run with it whatever way you wan't. You want to run fast or be a beast on the football field that i can easily talk about all day. other things I can only relate it all to. So if anyone wan'ts to increase there 40 PM me.
Oh and no I dont drink gallons of water a day so I can own you all under my BF2 name topSEAL. Come get some
I did high school track and had countless school, conference, and section records. As well as a state championship and the honor of being called the fastest in the section for football. Why becuase I had a classic touch coach. You can sit there and every day and run 100's or 120's and you will get faster but essentially you aren't getting the best practice.
Before we ran we would do fast arms, fast legs. Focus on these getting faster before we ran. We would do starts and try to improve 10 meter start times. A very important factor in a 100 meter and 200 meter race. Plus various other focus excersizes.
So lets take this to the geek side of things. Let say you wan't to be a better FPS player.
-Use only a specific weapon(pistol, sniper rifle or even grenages.
-practice throw a grenade and switch to primary.
-etc
Its about understanding the mechanics of what you are doing. So lets say you want to get better at DDR a couple things will work.
-Get style learn to move to sound not just tap on a arrow when its time.
-Do leg work. put an arm against the wall and move ur leg as fast as u can in an up and out running motion
-stretch for better flexibility and your response time decreases.
-12 pack of mountain dew doesnt hydrate you so put down the 12 pack and pick up some dasani water. Even for FPS you cant beat being hydrated your more there mentally. just drink a 6 pack of MD : )
use the info and run with it whatever way you wan't. You want to run fast or be a beast on the football field that i can easily talk about all day. other things I can only relate it all to. So if anyone wan'ts to increase there 40 PM me.
Oh and no I dont drink gallons of water a day so I can own you all under my BF2 name topSEAL. Come get some
I remember reading that Major League Baseball players have, on average, the quickest reflexes/reaction times of any group of people--we're probably talking in the range of 150-200ms, but I can't remember for sure. I do know it is sub 200ms. However, even those are several times slower than a cat.
Fright or pain can decrease it I believe.
Supposedly thinking aobut baseball can slow things down.
Supposedly thinking aobut baseball can slow things down.
Looking at the results from sprints in the 96 olympics, the best reaction time was Frank Fredericks (Namibia) in the 100 at 143 milliseconds.
Well I think what we can do is essentially create some kind of feed foreward control loop. We do this by practicing something over and over again, thus imprinting a "plan" on what will happen so rather than react FASTER we can start reacting EARLIER which gives the impression that you are moving faster. A good example is to ask you friend to extend out his arm with hand open and palm facing up. Put a book on his palm and don't tell him what you will do. Now just randomly lift the book, if you watch his hand will move up along with the book. Now do it again, but this time his hand doesn't move at all (or moves SLIGHTLY) because his body reacts ahead of time and turns off his biceps.
So you playing DDR isn't that you make yourself move faster as much as it is you predict things better and you have trained your body to deal with that through a feedforeward loop.
As for reacting FASTER...that is limited to our biology. Humans react pretty slow. Something on the order of 40ms if I remember my sensory motor systems correctly. A lot of it has to deal with an action potential (lets say in the form of mechanically activated gates like doing a knee tap test with those triangle hammer things) traveling UP your axons to your spine/brain (depending what it is) and then from there having your body decode the signal, and sending back the proper response to travel down a motor axon system all the way to the end where it meets the muscle on the synaptic terminal and hits more gated channels that starts exocytosis of acteylcholine ...and we haven't started talking about getting the muscle to activate by getting the calcium rushed in there
Basically the only way I could see speeding up our reactions would be to have thicker Myelin. We have something called myelin that wraps around our axons (gives the whitish color of the spinal cord) and it acts like a REALLLY good insulator. The thicker the myelin, generally the faster the conduction speed down an axon which means the faster the response.
Either way we respnd slow as humans...imagine controlling a robot with a 40ms delay! It would be insanely slow!
So you playing DDR isn't that you make yourself move faster as much as it is you predict things better and you have trained your body to deal with that through a feedforeward loop.
As for reacting FASTER...that is limited to our biology. Humans react pretty slow. Something on the order of 40ms if I remember my sensory motor systems correctly. A lot of it has to deal with an action potential (lets say in the form of mechanically activated gates like doing a knee tap test with those triangle hammer things) traveling UP your axons to your spine/brain (depending what it is) and then from there having your body decode the signal, and sending back the proper response to travel down a motor axon system all the way to the end where it meets the muscle on the synaptic terminal and hits more gated channels that starts exocytosis of acteylcholine ...and we haven't started talking about getting the muscle to activate by getting the calcium rushed in there
Basically the only way I could see speeding up our reactions would be to have thicker Myelin. We have something called myelin that wraps around our axons (gives the whitish color of the spinal cord) and it acts like a REALLLY good insulator. The thicker the myelin, generally the faster the conduction speed down an axon which means the faster the response.
Either way we respnd slow as humans...imagine controlling a robot with a 40ms delay! It would be insanely slow!
It comes down to anticipation. When John Force puts down a good reaction time it is due to anticipation and timing himself through countless hours of proactice.
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