Is there a term for someone who sits somewhere between capitalism and communism?

PingSpike

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Butt plug.



What do you mean "somewhere between"? Socialism is between the two I think?
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: miri
There has never been a communist regime.

I think what you meant to say is there has never been a communist regime that has passed the Dictatorship of the Proletariat phase.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
What do you mean "somewhere between"? Socialism is between the two.
No, it is not. Communism and socialism are essentially the same thing except (1) communism advocates violent revolution as the means to power whereas socialism believes in more peaceful subversion, and (2) communism believes in a final "workers' paradise" utopia and socialism does not.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: PingSpike
What do you mean "somewhere between"? Socialism is between the two.
No, it is not. Communism and socialism are essentially the same thing except (1) communism advocates violent revolution as the means to power whereas socialism believes in more peaceful subversion, and (2) communism believes in a final "workers' paradise" utopia and socialism does not.

Ok, then I go with my first answer.
 

BigToque

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Originally posted by: Vic
Fascist.

I don't think that's what I'm thinking of...

I'm thinking of something where capitalism is still predominent, but there are a lot of social policys in place to protect people.

Maybe it's socialism I'm thinking of?
 

Proletariat

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Socialism isn't at all the same as Communism...

All the sectors of commerce are not controlled by the government.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: miri
There has never been a communist regime.

I think what you meant to say is there has never been a communist regime that has passed the Dictatorship of the Proletariat phase.

I dont think those in power like Stalin or Mao ever wanted to transition to a communist phase. They were perfectly happy with their authoritarian totalitarian government. Communist is a classless society. The former USSR had the elites and everyone else. In order to progress to communism there needs to be a stage of socialism to setup the communist phase. This never occurred in the USSR.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: BigToque
Originally posted by: Vic
Fascist.

I don't think that's what I'm thinking of...

I'm thinking of something where capitalism is still predominent, but there are a lot of social policys in place to protect people.

Maybe it's socialism I'm thinking of?


Sounds actually like what the USA tried to be. Run by Capitalism with a gov't in place to protect people. However, the corruption of the gov't ruined that idea.
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: PingSpike
What do you mean "somewhere between"? Socialism is between the two.
No, it is not. Communism and socialism are essentially the same thing except (1) communism advocates violent revolution as the means to power whereas socialism believes in more peaceful subversion, and (2) communism believes in a final "workers' paradise" utopia and socialism does not.


Stupid republican yank ftw.

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: miri
There has never been a communist regime.
Yes, there has been and currently are. The "workers paradise" utopia of communism is a myth. It's the exact same as the Pope telling people that good Catholics go to Heaven, so get back to work and ignore the tragedies of this life for you will be rewarded in the next life. Communism is the same thing: get back to work, ignore the horrors of this life, and your children will see the workers paradise. Otherwise, that violent totalitarian socialism that we see is exactly what communism is.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: BigToque
Originally posted by: Vic
Fascist.

I don't think that's what I'm thinking of...

I'm thinking of something where capitalism is still predominent, but there are a lot of social policys in place to protect people.

Maybe it's socialism I'm thinking of?


Sounds actually like what the USA tried to be. Run by Capitalism with a gov't in place to protect people. However, the corruption of the gov't ruined that idea.

As it always will.