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Is there a Tablet, Slate PC with Wacom Digitizer?

Bookcase14

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Hey guys. My question is pretty much stated in the title. Is there any indication/news of a slate or tablet PC coming out in the near future that integrates a Wacom active Digitizer? The reason why I am asking is, I like the idea of a tablet, but I would really enjoy having a "digital sketchbook" to draw with.
I have looked at the Axion Modbooks, but I don't like anything Apple and those things are so darn expensive to mod. I also have heard that the HP slate (if it is still in the works) might contain one.

Any info would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
 

Bookcase14

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I might, I just thought I'd try all the hard core tech guys who know a lot more than me. In addition, I don't want a sales pitch from Wacom telling me to buy their overpriced (but awesome) cintiqs.
 

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That 2740p link takes you here, and it does cite a "pen" option foir the multi-touch pad. That suggests a digitizing capability assuming a "pen" is finctionally like a Wacom stylus. A pointed device is much more precise and accurate than a big, fat fingertip.

http://www.slashgear.com/hp-elitebook-2740p-multitouch-tablet-hands-on-2875779/

Look in the 5th paragraph for this: ". . .Windows 7′s multitouch gestures work well, with the touchscreen instantly flicking into pen-input mode when the stylus is nearby. . ."
 
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fatpat268

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Most of the tablet pc's have wacom digitizers in them, or at least they used to.

The only difference is that the sensitivity is typically much lower on the tablets than it is on a regular wacom pad (256 levels vs 1024 levels).
 

Griffinhart

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The current crop of HP Tablets have a Wacom Digitizer. I have the TM2 tablet with a Wacom Digitizer.

Rumor is that the, back from the dead, HP Slate supports pen, but no word on if it's Wacom or Ntrig, or something else.

I believe the Thinkpad X201t uses wacom as well.

The TM2 just finished its product refresh. You can get a stock tablet with an i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and a 500GB HD for around $900. You can customize it with a better Graphics option (Switchable graphics) an i5 processor, more RAM etc.

I got the last version of the tablet about 2 months ago with the beefier graphics and 8GB of RAM for$900 with an online coupon. I wouldn't be surprised if you can find a similar deal with one of the new models.
 
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Bookcase14

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Thanks to all who replied. I will check out the HP options and keep my eyes peeled for any tablets.
 

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The current crop of HP Tablets have a Wacom Digitizer. I have the TM2 tablet with a Wacom Digitizer.

Rumor is that the, back from the dead, HP Slate supports pen, but no word on if it's Wacom or Ntrig, or something else.

I believe the Thinkpad X201t uses wacom as well.

The TM2 just finished its product refresh. You can get a stock tablet with an i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and a 500GB HD for around $900. You can customize it with a better Graphics option (Switchable graphics) an i5 processor, more RAM etc.

I got the last version of the tablet about 2 months ago with the beefier graphics and 8GB of RAM for$900 with an online coupon. I wouldn't be surprised if you can find a similar deal with one of the new models.


What I REALLY don't understand is why the lower end, IMO trashy looking tm2 has switchable graphics but the higher end 2740p doesn't.
 

Griffinhart

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At a guess, they are targetted at different markets. The 2740p is targetted at businesses who don't care if their users can get decent framerates while playing games, while the TM2 is consumer based where individual buyers may actually care. The Thinkpad X201t is the same way. Intel graphics only, no option for a dedicated GPU.

IMHO, I don't find the TM2 trashy looking. I wish there were a little less "blush" to the color, but other than that, it's a very nice looking machine.
 

aceO07

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I wish the current 'hybrid' tablets (x201t, tm2, etc) would get lighter (and thinner). The x201s is only about 2.5lbs, while the x201t is almost 4lbs..
 

Dubb

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At a guess, they are targetted at different markets. The 2740p is targetted at businesses who don't care if their users can get decent framerates while playing games, while the TM2 is consumer based where individual buyers may actually care. The Thinkpad X201t is the same way. Intel graphics only, no option for a dedicated GPU.

That logic only makes sense if you ignore photographers and creative professionals who might want to do something besides jot notes with an active digitizer.

which, I guess laptop makers have a long history of doing.
 

Emulex

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the 2740p is damn near bulletproof - the tm2 is something that will melt down in a year.

the 2710p/2730p had the same wacom - with indoor and outdoor screen options (viewability) - awesome little machines. the 2730p was the first to come BTO with the intel X18-m 80gb which made up for the wimpy cpu when everyone else was throwing 5400rpm 1.8" drives in. (or 4200rpm).

wacom is totally different technology than the consumer models had. It is true pressure sensing and damn good at it.

Think Cintiq - 2730p - except you run photoshop on it :) rather than it being just a dumb screen/digitizer. for about the same prices these days if you look around.

the 3/3/3 nbd warranty is awesome on elitebooks - standard. $150 adds ADR, DMR(keep your ssd when it ahem fails lol no questions asked),and computrace professional which is not lojack - the hardware version. throw in some GOBI/3G you have quite a nice little ah heck that is very strong.

the Ntrig combination digitizer/capacitive screen on the older consumer models would register no pressure in photoshop or painter and well that made the screen pretty much useless.
 

Dubb

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the 2740p is damn near bulletproof - the tm2 is something that will melt down in a year.

the 2710p/2730p had the same wacom - with indoor and outdoor screen options (viewability) - awesome little machines. the 2730p was the first to come BTO with the intel X18-m 80gb which made up for the wimpy cpu when everyone else was throwing 5400rpm 1.8" drives in. (or 4200rpm).

wacom is totally different technology than the consumer models had. It is true pressure sensing and damn good at it.

Think Cintiq - 2730p - except you run photoshop on it :) rather than it being just a dumb screen/digitizer. for about the same prices these days if you look around.

the 3/3/3 nbd warranty is awesome on elitebooks - standard. $150 adds ADR, DMR(keep your ssd when it ahem fails lol no questions asked),and computrace professional which is not lojack - the hardware version. throw in some GOBI/3G you have quite a nice little ah heck that is very strong.

the Ntrig combination digitizer/capacitive screen on the older consumer models would register no pressure in photoshop or painter and well that made the screen pretty much useless.

all true, but it's still a crappy, poor color, low res screen, and can't really handle anything that resembles a 3D or GPU accelerated function. I'm not asking them to stuff in a Fermi, but what the hell, would a GF330 be that hard?

Fix those two things and I'm sold. In the meantime I'll be paying out the ass to use a brick of a workstation laptop and a wireless intuos.

Sorry, I'm just bitter. it seems like it would be so easy to make a decent tablet, but no one ever does it. IBM got close with the higher res screen on the x60T...but that was it.
 

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Sorry, I'm just bitter. it seems like it would be so easy to make a decent tablet, but no one ever does it. IBM got close with the higher res screen on the x60T...but that was it.

They got close but still far from it. I was really really disappointed when I found out that they didn't have true SATA II support. :( I was intending to upgrade to Intel G2 SSD..

The x61s can be upgraded to 1400x1050 IPS, but it also does NOT suppose SATA II. :(
 

Griffinhart

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the 2740p is damn near bulletproof - the tm2 is something that will melt down in a year.
While I have no doubt the 2740 is built to last, I don't expect my TM2 will melt down in a year. The TX2 I've had for two is still working well, I can't see why this one would be different.

the 2710p/2730p had the same wacom - with indoor and outdoor screen options (viewability) - awesome little machines. the 2730p was the first to come BTO with the intel X18-m 80gb which made up for the wimpy cpu when everyone else was throwing 5400rpm 1.8" drives in. (or 4200rpm).
The TM2 has a nice 500GB 7200 RPM drive, though I swapped it for a 160GB Intel SSD.
wacom is totally different technology than the consumer models had. It is true pressure sensing and damn good at it.
According to reviews, The TN2 has the same Wacom Pressure sensitive digitizer. It's supposedly even better than the one in the Thinkpad.

the Ntrig combination digitizer/capacitive screen on the older consumer models would register no pressure in photoshop or painter and well that made the screen pretty much useless.
The TX2 has the Ntrig, the TN2 has Wacom.


dubb: That logic only makes sense if you ignore photographers and creative professionals who might want to do something besides jot notes with an active digitizer.
The intel graphics are just fine for Photo editing, though, There are very few tablets or laptops with a screen decent enough since most don't use IPS or better panels.
 

Emulex

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its 100F outside go take your tx2 out for a nice poolside session rock some games in the sun. let me know how long it takes to shutdown/scale down cpu to prevent overtemp.
 

Griffinhart

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LOL, My Desktop would have issue if I played it in a 100 Degree room, never mind my laptop. I doubt any machine would thrive is such conditions. Not that the 2730 could game well anyway.

I get it, you love your 2730. I'm sure it's a great tablet and worth every penny, but that doesn't make the TM2 crap. For a piece of crap, it's managed to get plenty of editor choice awards for tablet PC's, and has a strong user base due to it's quality and a price tag less than half of the 2730 and $1600 less than the X201T.
 

Bookcase14

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Fix those two things and I'm sold. In the meantime I'll be paying out the ass to use a brick of a workstation laptop and a wireless intuos.

Sorry, I'm just bitter. it seems like it would be so easy to make a decent tablet, but no one ever does it. IBM got close with the higher res screen on the x60T...but that was it.


^ What he said...This is why I'm looking forward to something like the HP slate. If they actually use a Wacom digitizer (with good pressure sensitivity) I will be first in line to buy it. The form of a thinner tablet with no clamshell and physical keyboard and the ability to draw accurately is a huge selling point for me. That is why the Modbook is such a cool device, but it is terribly expensive and Apple just rubs me the wrong way.
 
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Emulex

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nah i think i confused the hp older amd tablets with your model. those were crap.

the screen on wacom's are expensive. the ntrig is hella cheaper and can do both touch (finger capacitive) and pen (Digitizer). for the tablet from hp to succeed it will need multitouch capacative (Resistive stinks) and optional digitizer.

Since the slate is destined first for commercial use - i'd bet it has wacom and will be very expensive.

i'm not sure if you can use a capacitive screen with a wacom?? i thought they were both induction input.

Point is the 2740p/30p/etc are very low voltage, last a long time, and have a nifty stackable battery for outdoor use. this is more along the lines of people doing business than trying to do some cool graphics/games/maya/3-d.

I think what i was saying is based on my experience - and the number of times i've seen compaq's get their video chips re-flow'ed is that hp made a bunch of laptops/tablets that ran too hot and RROD'd themselves melting the nvidia chip right off the board.

TX2 TM2 sorry i probably got those mixed up.
 

feeltch

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Enyone knows what digitizer Asus T101MT netbook uses?
I'm buying cheap screen for simple sketching. Will this Asus do for it?
I was thinking of buying Wacom Cintiq 12wx, but now i think maybe this would suit me as well and it is much cheaper.
 
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vcsx

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The TM2 just finished its product refresh. You can get a stock tablet with an i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and a 500GB HD for around $900.

Right now you can get the HP TM2 tablet with an i5 CPU, 4GB RAM, 500GB 7200 RPM hard drive and Wacom digitizer for $804.99. I won't give the link because I'm not sure about the rules regarding deals in this forum. However, the deal can be easily found via Google.

Edit: By the way, I have a TM2 with similar specs but ATI graphics. This thing is AMAZING!
 
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tsnorris

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I registered here just to post a reply; for some time I've been looking for a full-screen slate PC (no keyboard) with a pen for drafting editable class notes. It sort of seems like these devices are out there, but are mostly targeted at specialist markets like hospitals and mobile service providers. For instance, the Sahara Slate by TabletKiosk looked interesting. It's dual-mode, and although the touch is passive-resistive, there is an integrated Wacom digitizer.