Is there a particular reason they swapped out black dudes

[foghorn67]

I liked Iron Man 2. I loved Iron Man 1.

My problem is I like Howard and Cheadle. I give a slight edge to Cheadle for Ocean's 11. I'm indifferent on it.

 

[zinfamous]

As I recall, the black dude from the first movie wanted too much money, more even than Robert Downey Jr.

whoa. didn't know he wanted more than Iron Man.

I like Terrance Howard, a lot, and was glad to see him leave this franchise...just didn't realize that he wanted more than Iron Man was paid.

lolwhatanidiot.

 

[zinfamous]

I liked Iron Man 2. I loved Iron Man 1.

My problem is I like Howard and Cheadle. I give a slight edge to Cheadle for Ocean's 11. I'm indifferent on it.

yeah, good call. I dislike Howard for Iron Man 1, and dislike Cheadle for Traitor--their two biggest "phone-it-in" performances that I have seen.

either way, they got paid, so fuck it. It's a push

...and you should like Cheadle more for Boogie Nights and Hotel Rwanda.

:hmm:

 

[zinfamous]

This thread is awesome.


...probably because it has my favorite pontifex comment, ever.

:thumbsup:

 

[zinfamous]

Gyllanhall rocks.

all 'o youse are gay people.

 

[foghorn67]

yeah, good call. I dislike Howard for Iron Man 1, and dislike Cheadle for Traitor--their two biggest "phone-it-in" performances that I have seen.

either way, they got paid, so fuck it. It's a push

...and you should like Cheadle more for Boogie Nights and Hotel Rwanda.

:hmm:

Acting tour de force (right phrase for this?), yes Hotel Rwanda.
Likeability and coolness factor. Oceans 11. Boogie Nights would fit in there, but I haven't seen that in years.

 

[brblx]

Gyllanhall rocks.

all 'o youse are gay people.

she was cute in donnie darko, then it got weird. and for some reason now she talks like drew barrymore (retarded).

 

[Aikouka]

What are you referring to?

Crispin Glover played George McFly in Back to the Future 1, but did not play him in 2 or 3. Here's an article from him (supposedly) about why he didn't return:

source: http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=17108

During the press junket for "Hot Tub Time Machine," actor Crispin Glover opened up about the problems he encountered on the "Back to the Future" set that caused him not to return.

"On the DVD to the 'Back to the Future' trilogy, [co-writer, producer] Bob Gale has said something that's totally fabricated," said Glover. "He said I asked for twice the amount of money that Michael J. Fox asked for in the first film. In the negotiation for the second film, they offered me less than half of what any of the actors that were being asked to come back in the film — Michael J. Fox, Christopher Lloyd, Lea Thompson and Tom Wilson. They had all done studio films, and they'd made a lot more money. I was being penalized."

Negotiations fell apart and Glover didn't return for the rest of the trilogy. As a result the studio hired Jeffrey Weissman and made him look like Glover in order to bring back George McFly. Glover sued and won a settlement, leading to a new set of rules for the Screen Actors Guild in regard to illicit use of actors.

Glover continued: "I just feel like I can be totally quiet about it and people [can] think that I've done this kind of wrong thing or I can tell the truth of what has happened. [Gale] did not address that what they did was totally immoral and illegal and just wrong. [They] put another actor into false nose, chin and cheekbones in order to fool people into believing that I was in the film."

The part that he mentions about him supposedly demanding more money is most likely what was referenced earlier. That's what I've always heard as well.

Although, I'd argue that Glover probably had the lowest amount of screen time in part 2 and 3... even compared to Lea Thompson, who mostly had supporting roles in the latter two parts.

 

[LumbergTech]

/thread

 

[Arkaign]

Fwiw I think Cuba was pretty decent, but be became a Nick Cage pretty quickly. It's like he couldn't say no to ANY role offered him. There was a period for a few years I swear he was in every god damned movie out there, and most of them were pretty terrible. I do hope he calms down and makes a comeback though.

 

[eits]

loled for far too long on this one.

 

[Nik]

Crispin Glover played George McFly in Back to the Future 1, but did not play him in 2 or 3. Here's an article from him (supposedly) about why he didn't return:

source: http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=17108
The part that he mentions about him supposedly demanding more money is most likely what was referenced earlier. That's what I've always heard as well.

Although, I'd argue that Glover probably had the lowest amount of screen time in part 2 and 3... even compared to Lea Thompson, who mostly had supporting roles in the latter two parts.

Crispin Glover had a positively massive drug problem (and resulting rage problem). That's the biggest reason his career went down the shitter and the biggest reason that he likes to lie about why he was kicked to the curb from the BTTF series.

Even to this day he has major problems with it. What was it, last year? that he was on Leno/Letterman and was obviously stoned out of his gourd and clearly not on pot.

 

[pontifex]

This thread is awesome.


...probably because it has my favorite pontifex comment, ever.

:thumbsup:

which one is that?

 

[dwell]

Seriously comparing it to Caruso who is just a plain terrible actor (and would have probably been written off the show had he not left), well, lulz. Aside from Iron-Man which will likely get rebooted after the third one flops, the role was not going to take him anywhere.

And Terrence Howard is a great actor? He's a one trick pony: I'm-the-black-guy-who-talks-slow-in-this-monotone-voice-but-I-am-sooooo-serious-so-take-me-serious-because-I-talk-slow-and-southern-like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIB_daOBl9U

 

[airdata]

I like Don Cheadle better as an actor. I liked his movie ' Traitor '.

At least they didn't swap the whole cast like ' Death at a funeral.' That would have been disastrous.

 

[Saint Nick]

LOL

Not quite as bad as Back to the Future 2 IMO.

What happened in BTTF 2 regarding actor swaps?

 

[rudder]

When is Iron Man 2 hitting theaters?

 

[Zargon]

What happened in BTTF 2 regarding actor swaps?

its all explained a few posts up...

 

[Macamus Prime]

They are also swapping out Ed Norton as the Hulk in the Avengers movie.

 

[Saint Nick]

its all explained a few posts up...

Yeah, just noticed, Sorry. Thanks!

 

[SandEagle]

She's not THAT bad, she's ok sometimes. In The Dark Knight she was butt ugly though.

you must be crazy. i thought she was just fine in TDK

 

[RiDE]

Don Cheadle > Terrence Howard

 

[Aharami]

Don Cheadle > Terrence Howard

agree!

 

[zerocool84]

you must be crazy. i thought she was just fine in TDK

Nope she was horrible.

 

[MotF Bane]

Good idea, but probably too expensive.

For Dark Knight? The tank could've been plated with gold.