Carried to the logical extreme, NOTHING but one's own thoughts are provable... so why do you believe that what you think is reality even exists? You cannot even prove it or give example of it to yourself, yet you believe it to be true. Why?
Joe
Actually, I'd consider belief to be arrogant; it takes balls to go against the fact that despite ten millenia with millions and later billions of people on the lookout, the theory of the existence of a deity or deities hasn't one shred of evidence to back it up. Agnostics are the worst of the bunch though, most are simply fashion conscious, young and scared, choosing whatever will lose them the least favor among their peers... Come to think of it, that's a pretty good description of how many choose their digital audio player :laugh:
Because it's more believable than believing that there isn't a god. Think about the simplest cell. There's a nucleus that's capable of duplicating a comlete set of DNA in twenty minutes. Think about all the organlelles that control digestion, locomotion, reproduction and others. How can you believe that all this was engineered by sheer chance? Without anybody thinking about all the things that need to be covered? How?
And? I can sequence DNA from any available organic schmutz in a few hours here at work? I can also do neat things like clone genes and alter proteins produced by a given bacterial strain? Godlike? Hardly, but I'll bet it would have seemed godlike 100 years ago.
It's not due to sheer chance, it's due to evolution. You basically stated a variation of the watchmaker argument, and the difference of course is that watches don't reproduce themselves trillions of times over billions of years, adapting and becoming more complex as time passes. You're using religion to explain what (to you, not modern science though
) is the unexplainable, something it's been used for for many millenia.Well sure, you can manipulate it, but does anyone has the genious to invent DNA? Think about how complex it is. We can make jets, lasers, even manipulate DNA, but we would have never been able to create it from scratch.
Originally posted by: Gurck
It's not due to sheer chance, it's due to evolution. You basically stated a variation of the watchmaker argument, and the difference of course is that watches don't reproduce themselves trillions of times over billions of years, adapting and becoming more complex as time passes. You're using religion to explain what (to you, not modern science though
Peolpe have been right for many millenia, too.
By the way, if evolution isn't chance, what is? What are the odds that something as complex as I just mentioned was randomly formed together in a pool of toxic chemicals, whilst ultraviolet rays jolted it to life? A great deal more than if a god created it.
Doesn't matter what the chances are, as if we hadn't been lucky (how lucky is up for debate and will be until we learn more about our galaxy and others), we wouldn't be around to know about it. At any rate, it's not ultraviolet rays, it's electricity
Lab experiments have shown that conditions as they were on earth ~4 billions years ago, namely a hot, humid atmosphere high in C02, lightning, and various other components, can lead to spontaneous formation of simple proteins and small srings of DNA.
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