Is there a doctor in the house?

SunnyD

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Trying to find out if any of our resident "medical" professionals have any suggestions. Yes I know, I will be chastised for coming to ATOT for medical advise... and I know the typical answer is "Consult a REAL physician". But... I've done that, read on...

My older daughter (6 years) has been complaining for the past year and change on and off about her legs hurting her. At first, we though it was just get being lazy and not wanting to walk or generally do anything. She's not particularly athletic, she's more the creative one of the brood. However, on and off just randomly, she's complaining about pain in either of her legs. Always the lower leg, usually around the ankle or up slightly higher, sometimes the front, sometimes the back of the leg, but always the lower leg. When she complains, it is with definite pain, lately to the point where she is crying about it.

Again, at first we played it off as "laziness", or it would occasionally happen at dinner time where we played it as an excuse to not have to eat what she didn't like or whatnot. But now it is occuring more often, and in general randomly. At school, when sleeping (she has woken up a few nights crying about it now), just in general. Sure, it could still be her way of getting attention, but I have been beginning to doubt it.

Possible thoughts: "growing pains" - My wife had issues with her legs when growing up, but predominately in her teens, as she "abused" her legs a bit playing basketball and such. While there is a physical reasoning for this - growth of the growth plates in the legs... physicians have said this rarely causes pain and most of the action with this type of growth happens over night not bothering a person, as it does not cause pain. Plus my daughter is six, most of the rapid growth in this area happens in the early teens from what I'm told.

"Leg Cramps" - I know last night my daughter woke, in pain. It felt as if she had a bit of a knot in her calf. I wake up in the middle of the night regularly with leg cramps, usually around 3am or 4am... I've isolated that due to my love of salty foods, and it has become more rare with more fluid intake (now I just get up to pee...).

"Fibromyalgia" - This is very unlikely, as it usually does not occur until a woman is older... like 30's on up. But I did read the symptoms of Fibromyalgia, and ironically enough about 80% of them fit my daughter. But again, it's unheard of in children from what I've seen, especially a 6 year old.

We've asked the doctor about it, and he played it off. I forget what reasoning he gave, but it didn't warrant any further discussion in his opinion. I'm not sure who I would want to consult for a second opinion. My wife and I have done as much research as we can, but haven't come up with anything close to plausible.

So ATOT Armchair Medics... any ideas? I don't look forward to rummaging through the sarcastic and inane comments, but whatever. There might be a gem in here somewhere.
 

K1052

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Consult a second pediatric physician for another opinion.
 

jman19

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I'm no doc, but I used to get pain in my legs a lot growing up, particularly later in the day. Just something I kind of grew out of I guess...
 

mrrman

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I would get a second opinion and maybe acupuncture...if they do that on young kids...
 

kinev

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sciatica?
Sounds weird that the pain is moving around and isn't in one spot all the time.

Is it both legs or just one?
Where exactly does it hurt?
Do things like children's tylenol/advil help the pain?
Is she terribly obese?
Any recent changes in her activity level or a new pair of shoes?
Is there any swelling or discoloration where she says it hurts?
Is there any other sensation besides pain (i.e. numbness, tingling, burning)?
Can she move her legs normally (walk, run, etc.) when it hurts, or is it like her muscles are contracting tightly?

Gotta determine if it's neurological, skeletal/muscular, psychological, etc.....
 

Taejin

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that kind of sounds like the episode they had on Mystery Diagnosis about a little girl who's left-area of the face hurt so much randomly she couldnt even touch it. I think it was some extremely rare nerve problem where her nerve was not situated correctly or something.
 

Caecus Veritas

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definitely a second opinion from another doctor... or a third. i would continue consulting doctors until they can definitively figure out the cause and not some bs answer.
 

alkemyst

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This is impossible to diagnose without actually seeing the girl and talking to her.

It could be anything from normal to bone cancer.

Also I never get when someone says 'They are not really X, they are the X one in the family'. It's as if being multi-talented doesn't exsist or there is an excuse for lacking in an area.
 

quikah

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I had leg pains when I was younger. I had severe pigeon-toe when I was born, they did something when I was a baby, casts on the legs, I don't know, didn't really look too much into it. But anyway when I was growing up my ankles/lower legs would hurt pretty bad, pretty random. I would sometimes not be able to sleep.

We found that massaging them helped greatly, also rubbing them with Absorbine Jr. seemed to REALLY help a lot, no idea if they still make that stuff.

No idea if this is your daughter's problem.
 

Gibsons

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Does she have any fever or loss of coordination or strength?

If it's cramps, try to get her to eat pickles (or even drink pickle juice) and follow that with water. Might be a circulatory problem, in which case aspirin might help (but don't give her aspirin if she has any fever).
 

SsupernovaE

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It could really be anything. Definitely seek a second opinion.

I had severely pains in my legs growing up; then again, I have muscular dystrophy.
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: Taejin
that kind of sounds like the episode they had on Mystery Diagnosis about a little girl who's left-area of the face hurt so much randomly she couldnt even touch it. I think it was some extremely rare nerve problem where her nerve was not situated correctly or something.

Great show
 

Excelsior

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Growing pains. My sister had them quite bad and match what you're describing. She would wake up at night and be in pain. But she has/had no physical ailments otherwise.
 

HardcoreRomantic

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As long as I can remember I've had pain in my legs off and on, especially when I sleep (I remember this keeping me up a lot of nights). It gets a lot better when I start exercising or at the very least stretching. Maybe since she's more on the creative side, try out dance? I did in elementary school, and even though I wasn't that great, it was fun and it did help.
 

FoBoT

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i had that when i was a kid, mainly at night. it was mainly in my calf's if i remember correctly

back then, the doctors really didn't know what to do , they took my tonsils out :roll:

basically , i grew out of it
all i could do was wiggle and stretch my legs and eventually i would fall asleep

they probably call it ADD or something these days
 

Wheezer

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How is her potassium intake?

One sign of low potassium is leg craps, orange juice and bananas are excellent sources.
 

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I use to get charley horses all the time when I was younger. I'd wake up at night with leg cramps at least once or twice a week. If the symptoms are just leg cramps then I wouldn't worry to much about it. Have her do stretches once or twice a day to help.

Dehydration is the #1 cause btw.
 

theknight571

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My son used to get a similar type of pain at about that age... his were usually at night, and it hurt so much he wouldn't walk on it.

The best we could figure out was it happened on the days he played alot on his knees (he was 5-6 keep your minds out of the gutter :p). Such as in the sandbox, or playing with matchbox cars, etc.

We also attributed it partially to dehydration.

He seems to have outgrown the leg pain (he's 9 now)... but has developed migraines... which I (personally) would trade for the leg pain.

I would second the second opinion suggestion, just to rule out something other than "growing pains".
 

hzl eyed grl

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I have fibromyalgia. I'm almost positive it can occur in children. I was diagnosed when I was about 24. Definitely get her checked out because like it's already been said, it can be any number of things. Good luck and I hope it's nothing serious.
 

ATLien247

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My first thought was growing pains, which has already been mentioned several times. My second thought was shin splints. Does she have high arches? Maybe she needs better shoes?