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apoppin

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: superstition
...
Riddle Homophobia Scale

Read it.
Gay/lesbians are sick, crazy, immoral, sinful, wicked,
and damn entertaining and fun to be around.
Some are great fun, others are as boring as anyone else :p

. A guy I work with (who happens to be gay and that matters only in this thread, at least to some) happens to be waiting for the new Camaro convertibles to come out. We're both interested in them so I bought him a remote control concept car. That thing kicks ass!
some christians are twisted pieces of sh .. art


it is all on an individual basis; but a religion is really a "gang" of like minded persons - self-interested by nature
 

superstition

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Flawed .. it is STUPID
It is better than a predatory mentality.
what if the person wanting to "do unto you like unto themself" [/b] - what he likes is torture and masochism - like some "christians" that are filled with hate and want to stick you in their PRISON - is insane?
The "Golden Rule", as I said, is flawed. It can certainly be used as a tool of oppression by changing civility into a conformist weapon. However, education holds the key. Those prison-minded folks who want to use outdated folklore as a tool of oppression face the clarifying force of science/rationality.

As for self-destructive fetishes... they are controversial because many people do feel society has some measure of responsibility to protect people from mental illness. I'm not a fan of people who answer ads for people willing to be fried and eaten being dismissed as "hopeless". Those people should be helped, not laughed at as disposable. Science is used to determine whether or not something is a fetish or a serious case of psychosis.

 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: superstition
I'm not sure I agree. We have the right to the pursuit of happiness. Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.
I don't see the point.
You have no right to happiness

it comes from within

something that is lost on a materialistic generation
- the richest people tend to be the least happy
- the poorest people are the 2nd least happy

somewhere there is a BALANCE

i propose to find it in Chaos
- my own life's work


I'm not a fan of people who answer ads for people willing to be fried and eaten. Those people should be helped, not laughed at as disposable. Science is used to determine whether or not something is a fetish or a serious case of psychosis.
that is nature's way of taking out the trash .. you are now talking "intervention"
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: superstition
I'm not sure I agree. We have the right to the pursuit of happiness. Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.
I don't see the point.
Well, there's a difference between rights and privileges. We don't have a right to wealth, we have the right to pursue it. Wealth is a privilege. We don't have a right to housing, but only the right to pursue it.

I think that same applies to happiness.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: superstition
[You have no right to happiness it comes from within
Nonsense.
then you will never be happy

my mother is actually dying .. probably this week .. no amount of material anything will make me happy




if you ever hear a woman you are interested in say "i am looking for someone to make me happy" - run far away

she needs a hobby, not a man to abuse
 

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People that complain about political corectness are weak minded fools imo. What is there to complain about? Say what you want. That is what I do. I still say fgt even though I'm not homophobic at all. I just don't care what other people think when they hear me say it. That is their problem.

So really stop being such a whiner.
 

apoppin

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You can NEVER make *anyone* happy

you can entertain them however

there is ZERO "right" to happiness .. for anyone


and very few find it

anyone who thinks so is in for a rude awakening

i want to SHARE my OWN happiness .. not ask someone else to make me "happy"

and i am not talking about buying sex - that is depressing
 

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then you will never be happy

my mother is actually dying .. probably this week .. no amount of material anything will make me happy
You're the one who tried to bring materialism into this, not me.
 

superstition

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[Well, there's a difference between rights and privileges. We don't have a right to wealth, we have the right to pursue it. Wealth is a privilege. We don't have a right to housing, but only the right to pursue it.

I think that same applies to happiness.
The right to happiness is a privilege? Lol.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: superstition
...
Riddle Homophobia Scale

Read it.
Gay/lesbians are sick, crazy, immoral, sinful, wicked,
and damn entertaining and fun to be around.
Some are great fun, others are as boring as anyone else :p

. A guy I work with (who happens to be gay and that matters only in this thread, at least to some) happens to be waiting for the new Camaro convertibles to come out. We're both interested in them so I bought him a remote control concept car. That thing kicks ass!
some christians are twisted pieces of sh .. art


it is all on an individual basis; but a religion is really a "gang" of like minded persons - self-interested by nature
Well there are "gangs" galore. Civil rights gangs, equal rights gangs, literacy gangs - all self interested by nature. All have causes they feel worth pursuing after all.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: superstition
then you will never be happy

my mother is actually dying .. probably this week .. no amount of material anything will make me happy
You're the one who tried to bring materialism into this, not me.
so YOU *define* it

i gave an example - from my own life today
- i am sorry she is dying .. but it does not change me .. she is 83, she had a very good life .. and i realize that ALL prognosis is terminal .. i was even privileged to care for her for nearly a decade after she had an illness that destroyed much of her executive functions .. and she became my friend, and we said good-bye - not only as a mother and son, but as friends who really know each other and appreciate each other .. it was touching for both of us and a sadness that we are forever parting here .. i will never see her again most likely [we are going to different places, i think]


yet it is sadness .. and as a new chapter in my life opens, i realize that i am temporarily sad and that my nature is "happiness" despite circumstance because despite the overwhelming odds that i perceive against us .. i still have hope .. and a purpose in accordance with will

so you have a personal experience from me that says "happiness" or sadness comes from within

How is your experience with happiness so different than mine?


you are a cold and unfeeling ass, btw
-i doubt you will ever be happy although i hope you find it

Well there are "gangs" galore. Civil rights gangs, equal rights gangs, literacy gangs - all self interested by nature. All have causes they feel worth pursuing after all.
and they are a *curse* on Society
--especially Organized Religion .. a hateful tradition of self-interest
 

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a: 'self-interest' is what destroyed our political system - happiness of the privileged - causes pain to the majority; and those rich bastards are STILL not happy. Happiness is an illusion . . . it comes from within; being at one with ourselves .. if we are we naturally work well with others

To be at one with oneself is to return to the openness we had as children and the state we were in when we were killed. To really relax can bring panic attack and memories of things buried. To open up to love is to take down defenses and feel pain. The more one moves to oneness the harder one is pushed away. To become one is to deal with self hate, to understand why Cerberus stands guarding the door.

Now religious folk may pass if they are of real faith, or the faker transcend fear of the bite, or the yogi punch right on through, but to allow oneself to go into the pain turns Cerberus into a puppy.

We are in morning for our lost oneness and grief when felt heals.
 

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

A few minutes ago while listening to an archived NPR clip, I heard a reporter refer to her husband as her "partner" without ever mentioning the word husband. (I assume she had a husband and not a lesbian partner since she was talking about her son too.) I also read a local newspaper article where a travel writer referred to her husband as her "partner".

Now, it isn't linguistically incorrect to do that, but I've noticed the use of "my partner" in place of "my husband" or "my wife" more and more often lately.

So, is using "my partner" instead of "my husband" or "my wife" part of the rules of political correctness now? For years, homosexuals would refer to their partners as simply "my partner" and I would always assume that anyone who had a "partner" was referring to a homosexual partner. Is this new use of "my partner" to refer to heterosexual partners an attempt to change the language in order to mainstream homosexuality?

For the record, I'm not homophobic or anti-gay and I don't have a problem with gay marriage. However, I do have a problem with political correctness perverting our language.
I included the disclaimer because I figured that by putting up such a post, some people might infer that I'm anti-gay, which isn't true. However, I am against touchy-feely political correctness. I don't ever want to be told that it's inappropriate to refer to my wife as "my wife".
Hey OP. Wake up and smell the burning coffee, you neanderthal flame baiting forum trolling closet homo. You aren't asking a question here about the use of the word partner, you are basically bashing gays and then double back peddeling like your no gay hater. With a topic summary like "Politically correct attempt to muck up the language to make homosexuals feel more comfortable?" it's pretty obvious you stumbled upon some male porno web surfing, and got a big, hard boner over it, and felt a bit guilty. NPR clip my ass. And no, you can't have any. :thumbsdown:

Partner is also simply a generic, sexless term, and can be used to describe either partner, or both as in partners. Is your business partner married to you? Is your Bridge partner married to you? Grasping at straws and taking the PC approach to a usage is both ignorant and offensive as you have stated it in your topic. Why not simply look a word up next time before you stupidly bash gays about its usage, ok?

It's mostly your "wifes" fault for all this politically correct BS in the first place. Ever hear of feminism? You are married to one, you should have. Your partner is long past fed up with you putting her in her place with a demeaning term like wife, thank you very much. But in your rush to gay bash homos for all of societies countless ills, you obviously overlooked that glaring fact. She ain't your babe, bitch, or ho no mo, either. And you sure better wise up and watch how you choose to refer to her in the future, or you just might wake up one morning one of the chicks, when she offers you your shriveled sausage for breakfast, with eggs. :p

Also, you ever wonder in your closet why so called straight guys want women to be bisexual or gay but not other men? Does that also make most men a hypocrite? Yea, it does. No matter, in about 125,000 years all men will likely be extinct. The reign of the parasitic men will come to a biological dead end by then. The Y chromosome just won't hold out for much longer. And Y chromosome viagra won't help a damn bit. So say goodbye to wifey, hello to partner and hello to the new maleless womankind. Mens days are certainly numbered, hubby. :evil:

Men Are In Trouble By Deborah Hornblow

Homo Erectus Extinctus from the Times Online



 

Moonbeam

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Some Zen master said that when he stopped chasing happiness it chases after him.

The ego is a defense against self hate, a need machine searching for love. It is a vacuum that can swallow the world and never be filled. Once the self is infected with self hate the only way back is self love. Happiness can only come from within, from healing the split in the soul where the ego pretends it's the whole. The self doesn't need happiness because the self is joy.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: superstition
then you will never be happy

my mother is actually dying .. probably this week .. no amount of material anything will make me happy
You're the one who tried to bring materialism into this, not me.
so YOU *define* it

i gave an example - from my own life today
- i am sorry she is dying .. but it does not change me .. she is 83, she had a very good life .. and i realize that ALL prognosis is terminal .. i was even privileged to care for her for nearly a decade after she had an illness that destroyed much of her executive functions .. and she became my friend, and we said good-bye - not only as a mother and son, but as friends who really know each other and appreciate each other .. it was touching for both of us and a sadness that we are forever parting here .. i will never see her again most likely [we are going to different places, i think]


yet it is sadness .. and as a new chapter in my life opens, i realize that i am temporarily sad and that my nature is "happiness" despite circumstance because despite the overwhelming odds that i perceive against us .. i still have hope .. and a purpose in accordance with will

so you have a personal experience from me that says "happiness" or sadness comes from within

How is your experience with happiness so different than mine?


you are a cold and unfeeling ass, btw
-i doubt you will ever be happy although i hope you find it

Well there are "gangs" galore. Civil rights gangs, equal rights gangs, literacy gangs - all self interested by nature. All have causes they feel worth pursuing after all.
and they are a *curse* on Society
--especially Organized Religion .. a hateful tradition of self-interest
In you opinion of course. I could say the same thing about others, but I don't despise black or gays or Republicans or Democrats, or teachers or teens, or the elderly or whomever to make a blanket comment. I've worked in third world countries with devoutly religious people in horrible conditions, and if they represent a hateful tradition of self-interest I want to see more of it. I don't think MLK was wrong. It didn't occur to me to throw up a litmus test to see if I could accept his acts because of his associations. It didn't occur to me to throw out his contributions because of his imperfections. I was raised to believe that if someone does a kindness, then it's a good act. If someone risks his life for another I ought to ask if he is gay or religious or black or white before I consider the act as "good"? I don't ask if someone is liberal or conservative or Catholic or Atheist to predetermine their "selfishness" of action. Never occured to me that they have to belong or not belong to a particular group to be able to do a good thing at random. I may or may not approve of some aspects of their lives, and I certainly don't have to embrace the totality of their being. It's not all or nothing. Well, that's how I've lived and it's worked for me. I've decided to eschew bitterness and hatred of people some might like to define as bitter and hateful and become what they despise. I can like people whom have traits I don't approve of. I can consider a man who becomes a billionaire a failure, and a poor man a success based not on their wallet, but how they take care of their own. How they act. What they love. I'm free. Try it. :)
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: superstition
[Well, there's a difference between rights and privileges. We don't have a right to wealth, we have the right to pursue it. Wealth is a privilege. We don't have a right to housing, but only the right to pursue it.

I think that same applies to happiness.
The right to happiness is a privilege? Lol.
Happiness is a privilege, yes. We earn it. We're not guaranteed it.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: superstition
then you will never be happy

my mother is actually dying .. probably this week .. no amount of material anything will make me happy
You're the one who tried to bring materialism into this, not me.
so YOU *define* it

i gave an example - from my own life today
- i am sorry she is dying .. but it does not change me .. she is 83, she had a very good life .. and i realize that ALL prognosis is terminal .. i was even privileged to care for her for nearly a decade after she had an illness that destroyed much of her executive functions .. and she became my friend, and we said good-bye - not only as a mother and son, but as friends who really know each other and appreciate each other .. it was touching for both of us and a sadness that we are forever parting here .. i will never see her again most likely [we are going to different places, i think]


yet it is sadness .. and as a new chapter in my life opens, i realize that i am temporarily sad and that my nature is "happiness" despite circumstance because despite the overwhelming odds that i perceive against us .. i still have hope .. and a purpose in accordance with will

so you have a personal experience from me that says "happiness" or sadness comes from within

How is your experience with happiness so different than mine?


you are a cold and unfeeling ass, btw
-i doubt you will ever be happy although i hope you find it

Well there are "gangs" galore. Civil rights gangs, equal rights gangs, literacy gangs - all self interested by nature. All have causes they feel worth pursuing after all.
and they are a *curse* on Society
--especially Organized Religion .. a hateful tradition of self-interest
In you opinion of course. I could say the same thing about others, but I don't despise black or gays or Republicans or Democrats, or teachers or teens, or the elderly or whomever to make a blanket comment. I've worked in third world countries with devoutly religious people in horrible conditions, and if they represent a hateful tradition of self-interest I want to see more of it. I don't think MLK was wrong. It didn't occur to me to throw up a litmus test to see if I could accept his acts because of his associations. It didn't occur to me to throw out his contributions because of his imperfections. I was raised to believe that if someone does a kindness, then it's a good act. If someone risks his life for another I ought to ask if he is gay or religious or black or white before I consider the act as "good"? I don't ask if someone is liberal or conservative or Catholic or Atheist to predetermine their "selfishness" of action. Never occured to me that they have to belong or not belong to a particular group to be able to do a good thing at random. I may or may not approve of some aspects of their lives, and I certainly don't have to embrace the totality of their being. It's not all or nothing. Well, that's how I've lived and it's worked for me. I've decided to eschew bitterness and hatred of people some might like to define as bitter and hateful and become what they despise. I can like people whom have traits I don't approve of. I can consider a man who becomes a billionaire a failure, and a poor man a success based not on their wallet, but how they take care of their own. How they act. What they love. I'm free. Try it. :)
You don't apparently understand what i am saying

Self interest is *bad* .. at the EXPENSE of OTHER self-interest


Gangs are ultimately BAD for society .. if society was not defective there would be no need to gather groups for self-protection; when these groups learn how to scam the system, then they take advantage of it and hurt other groups

it is self-perpetuating

i am an expert in gang behavior and applying it on a global scale
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: superstition
then you will never be happy

my mother is actually dying .. probably this week .. no amount of material anything will make me happy
You're the one who tried to bring materialism into this, not me.
so YOU *define* it

i gave an example - from my own life today
- i am sorry she is dying .. but it does not change me .. she is 83, she had a very good life .. and i realize that ALL prognosis is terminal .. i was even privileged to care for her for nearly a decade after she had an illness that destroyed much of her executive functions .. and she became my friend, and we said good-bye - not only as a mother and son, but as friends who really know each other and appreciate each other .. it was touching for both of us and a sadness that we are forever parting here .. i will never see her again most likely [we are going to different places, i think]


yet it is sadness .. and as a new chapter in my life opens, i realize that i am temporarily sad and that my nature is "happiness" despite circumstance because despite the overwhelming odds that i perceive against us .. i still have hope .. and a purpose in accordance with will

so you have a personal experience from me that says "happiness" or sadness comes from within

How is your experience with happiness so different than mine?


you are a cold and unfeeling ass, btw
-i doubt you will ever be happy although i hope you find it

Well there are "gangs" galore. Civil rights gangs, equal rights gangs, literacy gangs - all self interested by nature. All have causes they feel worth pursuing after all.
and they are a *curse* on Society
--especially Organized Religion .. a hateful tradition of self-interest
In you opinion of course. I could say the same thing about others, but I don't despise black or gays or Republicans or Democrats, or teachers or teens, or the elderly or whomever to make a blanket comment. I've worked in third world countries with devoutly religious people in horrible conditions, and if they represent a hateful tradition of self-interest I want to see more of it. I don't think MLK was wrong. It didn't occur to me to throw up a litmus test to see if I could accept his acts because of his associations. It didn't occur to me to throw out his contributions because of his imperfections. I was raised to believe that if someone does a kindness, then it's a good act. If someone risks his life for another I ought to ask if he is gay or religious or black or white before I consider the act as "good"? I don't ask if someone is liberal or conservative or Catholic or Atheist to predetermine their "selfishness" of action. Never occured to me that they have to belong or not belong to a particular group to be able to do a good thing at random. I may or may not approve of some aspects of their lives, and I certainly don't have to embrace the totality of their being. It's not all or nothing. Well, that's how I've lived and it's worked for me. I've decided to eschew bitterness and hatred of people some might like to define as bitter and hateful and become what they despise. I can like people whom have traits I don't approve of. I can consider a man who becomes a billionaire a failure, and a poor man a success based not on their wallet, but how they take care of their own. How they act. What they love. I'm free. Try it. :)
You don't apparently understand what i am saying

Self interest is *bad* .. at the EXPENSE of OTHER self-interest


Gangs are ultimately BAD for society .. if society was not defective there would be no need to gather groups for self-protection; when these groups learn how to scam the system, then they take advantage of it and hurt other groups

it is self-perpetuating

i am an expert in gang behavior and applying it on a global scale
I'm an expert in gangs as well from the practical side. I grew up in inner city philly, where one step on the wrong side of the street gets you shot. I have a carved scar on my right hand because of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I understand you don't like religion. You are entitled to your opinion. I won't argue that there are times when it has been used for terrible purposes. In this country in these times those whom I personally know who sacrifice for their religion have done so in a way that costs them personally but benefits others in a material sense. As I say I've worked with others in lousy places to rebuild communities etc. and I have respect for those I met.

Why? A few reasons. Some just feel it's what should be done. Another found a passage that I have here

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."


The bottom line is that they took it to mean that it is their obligation to do what they did. Now does that mean they are obliged to approve of anything? No, but it does mean they cannot harm another because of they way that person happens to be.

Perhaps I meet exceptional people. I know of another case parents would have nothing to do with their daughter who became ill because it was "God's punishment" for marrying someone not of the same faith. Why have that attitude? I can't understand it at all. Yet it happens.

My conclusion is that neither religion nor lack or it or anything else is responsible for hate. Rather people will find a justification to harm another whether it's religion or politics or whatever.

That's why I'm not so much interested in what a person says they are nearly as much as how they act.

I can define love not as helping those you approve of, but helping those in need that you don't like. If the need is elevated above the people involved, then that is a good act.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
some christians are twisted pieces of sh .. art
Enough of your insane babbling that you wrap with a rose. As far as being a bigot, you are the biggest one in this thread. Yet you are too stupid to even realize it. But since you have been asking for it for the last 6 pages in this thread, I will come out and say it. I'm Catholic and I will proudly say I believe that gay men are sick, perverse, and worthless to society as a whole. Keep them away from me.

*waits for your witty response wrapped in a rose*
 

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Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: apoppin
some christians are twisted pieces of sh .. art
Enough of your insane babbling that you wrap with a rose. As far as being a bigot, you are the biggest one in this thread. Yet you are too stupid to even realize it. But since you have been asking for it for the last 6 pages in this thread, I will come out and say it. I'm Catholic and I will proudly say I believe that gay men are sick, perverse, and worthless to society as a whole. Keep them away from me.

*waits for your witty response wrapped in a rose*
were you trying to prove his quote true? mission accomplished. oh, and may all your sons be gay :)
 
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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
There are certain common sense things to avoid getting in trouble. There are words you don't yell at a Black Panther and others you don't at a KKK rally. It's just stupid. On the other hand, I greatly dislike PCness. I don't care much for the Thought Police enforcing their sensibilities on others. There is a great deal of difference between tolerance and acceptance. One may not approve of homosexuality for example, yet tolerate it in the true sense. Accepting it is another matter. At the point one forces acceptance as the mandate then that's crossing the line. There is no inherent right to force people to accept homosexuality or black culture or religion or patriotism or any other "ism". People have the absolute right to be fools if that's how you choose to view them. The problem is when someone forces their beliefs on another. I don't mean talking to you about them, but acting in fact. You can talk to me about gay rights or God or Allah or whatever. That's free speech. When you forcibly detain me or punish someone for not adopting a particular POV, then that's wrong.

I've heard it said (and I agree) that freedom of speech is useless without the freedom to offend. I will tolerate it, however if you force someone to accept it, there's the issue.

As far as the OP's point- I believe if someone wants to use the word "partner" that's their business and I have no problem. I DO have an issue if NPR were to have a list of "recommended substitutions" that they "encourage" people to use to promote "sensitivity". That's a long way of saying coercion. I don't care for NewSpeak.
I'd yell "white power" at a black panther meeting and "black power" at a KKK meeting and i would probably get the shite beat out of me, then i'd stand up and do it again. Because that is what i do, i fight for the rights of others to be who they are and be safe in their homes no matter what beliefs, no matter what sex or sexuality and last i looked it up, there isn't enough genetical difference to distinguish races in mankind, we are all human, i am just me, but if you're with me, then i'm not just me, if others join us, more will come.

The fight for human rights is never done, my friend, it never ends.

So people like you and me will HAVE to stand in black panther meetings screaming on the top of our lungs "white power" or at KKK rallies screaming "black power" because that is the ONLY way to do anything about it.

I hope all is well with you my friend.

Jake
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: apoppin
some christians are twisted pieces of sh .. art
Enough of your insane babbling that you wrap with a rose. As far as being a bigot, you are the biggest one in this thread. Yet you are too stupid to even realize it. But since you have been asking for it for the last 6 pages in this thread, I will come out and say it. I'm Catholic and I will proudly say I believe that gay men are sick, perverse, and worthless to society as a whole. Keep them away from me.

*waits for your witty response wrapped in a rose*
May you burn in the hell you imagine for others with your bigotry and hypocrisy. Using religion, race, politics or sex as a sole basis to unilaterally hate someone else is psychotic, pure and simple.

 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
There are certain common sense things to avoid getting in trouble. There are words you don't yell at a Black Panther and others you don't at a KKK rally. It's just stupid. On the other hand, I greatly dislike PCness. I don't care much for the Thought Police enforcing their sensibilities on others. There is a great deal of difference between tolerance and acceptance. One may not approve of homosexuality for example, yet tolerate it in the true sense. Accepting it is another matter. At the point one forces acceptance as the mandate then that's crossing the line. There is no inherent right to force people to accept homosexuality or black culture or religion or patriotism or any other "ism". People have the absolute right to be fools if that's how you choose to view them. The problem is when someone forces their beliefs on another. I don't mean talking to you about them, but acting in fact. You can talk to me about gay rights or God or Allah or whatever. That's free speech. When you forcibly detain me or punish someone for not adopting a particular POV, then that's wrong.

I've heard it said (and I agree) that freedom of speech is useless without the freedom to offend. I will tolerate it, however if you force someone to accept it, there's the issue.

As far as the OP's point- I believe if someone wants to use the word "partner" that's their business and I have no problem. I DO have an issue if NPR were to have a list of "recommended substitutions" that they "encourage" people to use to promote "sensitivity". That's a long way of saying coercion. I don't care for NewSpeak.
I'd yell "white power" at a black panther meeting and "black power" at a KKK meeting and i would probably get the shite beat out of me, then i'd stand up and do it again. Because that is what i do, i fight for the rights of others to be who they are and be safe in their homes no matter what beliefs, no matter what sex or sexuality and last i looked it up, there isn't enough genetical difference to distinguish races in mankind, we are all human, i am just me, but if you're with me, then i'm not just me, if others join us, more will come.

The fight for human rights is never done, my friend, it never ends.

So people like you and me will HAVE to stand in black panther meetings screaming on the top of our lungs "white power" or at KKK rallies screaming "black power" because that is the ONLY way to do anything about it.

I hope all is well with you my friend.

Jake
Resist not evil. A soft answer turneth away wrath. People are bigots because they believe what they are is good and they have been told it is bad. A KKK person resents blacks who he feels are worthless, because if he is equal to them then he is as worthless as he thinks they are. If his own evaluation of his self worth wasn't based on being better than somebody else, but came from some real self appreciation, he wouldn't fear others being equal. What is needed then, is not screaming in his face, but some way to get his to really feel better so he will welcome others doing the same. We are all OK and don't need any defense for what we are. But self hate turns us into proponents of some imaginary good. Good and evil are a joke. There is only love.
 

nageov3t

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crikes this thread derailed quickly.

"partner" is frequently used to identify a gay person's significant other, but couldn't the person in the original post have been in an unmarried heterosexual relationship?

for what it's worth, I've never heard a husband refer to his wife as his partner or vice versa on any regular basis.
 

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