Is the U.S. still a nation? How do you define "nation"?

[Anarchist420]

I'd say that the National Origins Act of 1924 was against the anti-Federalists vision of free and independent ethical people.

It pretty much ended the old celtic-jewish Jeffersonian tradition once and for all; as it made it so only long headed immigrants could come in at the expense of short headed efficient people like Jews and Japanese.

People with long narrow heads are less independent and more imprecise; they are more likely to be socialist as obsessive compulsive disorder (correlated with A+ blood type) lead to obsessive compulsive socialism in Europe. Like myself, Modern Europeans are moralistic and don't easily give up their power; we demand too much.

However, it is a good idea to decentralize immigration policy because the Mexicans as a group have decent fluid intelligence (better than that of myself, most cops, most bureaucrats, many elected office holders, many judges and most of the blacks) and they produce without taking much; they just need to use English language and have respect for common law while being open to non-Romanism. and if the min wage stays flat, then the native born will have a fair labor market; of course more people create more demand and wages are nominal and not real as they are paid in fiat currency. So basically, more people with higher fluid intelligence will generate more income and increase real wealth. Too much crystallized intelligence leads to more centralization of power and less ingenuity and less prosperity.

 

[alcoholbob]

The border with Mexico has been pretty much wide open since the country was founded. We didn't even have a Border Patrol until 1924, yet why did Mexicans not enter the United States for nearly 150 years in any great number?

There are only two reasons people are coming across the Mexican border 99% of the cases: working men have jobs waiting for them on this side of the border because they will work for less than America's citizens, and women and children are promised taxpayer-funded welfare for single mothers and their children in return for some future date where their children will vote for the Democrats.

In both cases its due to the power that Washington wheels and deals in exchange for lobbyist money. "Enforcing immigration laws" is a nice word but it will never work. Unless you mobilize a million troops on the border, which will bankrupt this country. Remember what happened after the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882? Chinese immigration into this country tripled after the government bureaucracy was implemented to ostensibly "stop" Chinese immigration. However immigration officials are easily bribed or convinced with a moral argument to let people through even if its not legal, and the border is too porous to block with manpower alone. Government prohibitions are never really effective and always have the opposite effect--just like the war on drugs caused an increase in drug use, war on terror caused an increase in terror recruitment, enforcement of immigration laws just increases the desire for those you want to keep out to figure a way in.

It's simply a matter of national policy by the Republicans and Democrats to destroy the country and replace its current population with a permanent underclass.

 

[MongGrel]

:hmm:

 

[compuwiz1]

If you had to be a legal immigrant to receive government services they would quit coming for the most part. We've let it slip away. It makes even one of my Mexican friends angry, who's parents were legal hard working people. He went on an epic rant the other day and told me how much fraud is going on and how they are doing it. Multiple SSNs, working, while qualifying for section 8 housing, etc.

 

[MongGrel]

Similar things have been going on all over the place for years.

Rick Scott down in FL was actually on trial for massive medical fraud at one time and he's the damned Gov of FL somehow.

Cubans we're taking advantage of that down here at one time over the other side of the state in Miami.

How does that not make the US a nation?

 

[MongGrel]

I must have missed something some where.

 

[Anarchist420]

If you had to be a legal immigrant to receive government services they would quit coming for the most part. We've let it slip away. It makes even one of my Mexican friends angry, who's parents were legal hard working people. He went on an epic rant the other day and told me how much fraud is going on and how they are doing it. Multiple SSNs, working, while qualifying for section 8 housing, etc.

They still give a lot though by working for low wages and they also send some the USD back down to mexico so that it is not in circulation here (thus being a moderator on inflation). All in all, it is very difficult for me to conclude whether they are a net benefit or a net drain, so each State should decide especially when it comes to voting (as per the Articles of Confederation, the original constitution).

Just like I do, some of them give some people sweats and gas but they're not really lazy. And if they're able to appreciate the welfare and take advantage of it as you described, then they certainly have higher fluid intelligence than i.