Is the SAT an accurate indicator of success in college?

nycxandy

Diamond Member
Apr 11, 2001
3,731
0
76
No, how can one test be accurate? There are too many factors that can influence the test result.

And schools put so much faith in it because it's the only thing that they can use to directly compare students. Grading varies by school and coursework.
 

FleshLight

Diamond Member
Mar 18, 2004
6,883
0
71
I believe the University of California admitted in some article that the SATs were not an accurate indicator of success in college.
 

imported_judge

Senior member
Jun 30, 2004
325
0
0
No sat test is just that a test. Some people do on test really good and some don't
the way i look at it is college/university is just a game. The way i look at school, you play the game right and you get your batchilor degree. If you want to get ahead of the game then go for masters/ law school
 

theNEOone

Diamond Member
Apr 22, 2001
5,745
4
81
hell no. i got a 1210 and went to cornell (median was something like 1350 when i went) and i graduated w/ a 3.2. i majored in molecular biology and i almost double majored in economics. (about 2 classes short) cornell grades on a curve, so # of F's = #of A's. w/ a 3.2, i did better than the majority of students there.


=|
 

theNEOone

Diamond Member
Apr 22, 2001
5,745
4
81
Originally posted by: judge
No sat test is just that a test. Some people do on test really good and some don't
the way i look at it is college/university is just a game. The way i look at school, you play the game right and you get your batchilor degree. If you want to get ahead of the game then go for masters/ law school
lol, i want to know what game you play to get your "batchilor" degree. jesus kid, where are you going to school, at a community college?


=|
 

HappyPuppy

Lifer
Apr 5, 2001
16,997
2
71
This confirms what I was thinking.

I hear about people who max the SAT once in awhile and I've always wondered how they did in college and their subsequent careers.
 

Kelvrick

Lifer
Feb 14, 2001
18,422
5
81
No. I know some people who got like 1000 and are doing pretty well, and a guy with 1600 who has just been kicked out and has to wait a year before re-enrolling.
 

sniperruff

Lifer
Apr 17, 2002
11,644
2
0
how about a poll

and no, SAT does not evaluate what you've learned fairly, and no, you do not use what you've learn in college most of the time
 

wkabel23

Platinum Member
Dec 7, 2003
2,505
0
0
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
This confirms what I was thinking.

I hear about people who max the SAT once in awhile and I've always wondered how they did in college and their subsequent careers.

Scoring a 1600 isn't that hard. For some people they can just do it without studying, but through preperation anyone can get a 1500+ IMO. It's such a formulaic test it's ridiculous.
 

Babbles

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2001
8,253
14
81
I would say no, however it is really the only measuring stick out there.
 

Ricochet

Diamond Member
Oct 31, 1999
6,390
19
81
The SAT is not a good indicator of how well you do in college, but it could be your foot in the door. Those who coast by in HS and earn 3.9/4.0 GPA usually won't do as well as those who put in a lot of time and effort to earn 3.3-3.7 GPAs. The workload in college is significantly much more than HS and those who are use to doing the work are much more prepared for college.
 

Quasmo

Diamond Member
Jul 7, 2004
9,630
1
76
NO... I did extremely well (800 math / 680 verbal), that just proves that I'm good at taking tests and have problem solving skills. It doesn't show motovation (or lack there of). I went to Georgia Tech and dropped out. I even went to community college and did poorly. The reason... cause I wasn't doing what I loved, 2nd semester at community college I started taking art classes and made deans list, and now I'm at a prestegious art school, majoring in film and television, and loving it. Don't base how well you do, on a score. You'll do well if you love what you're doing and are willing to put forth effort into something you enjoy doing.
 

HermDogg

Golden Member
Jul 29, 2004
1,384
0
0
Originally posted by: theNEOone
hell no. i got a 1210 and went to cornell (median was something like 1350 when i went) and i graduated w/ a 3.2. i majored in molecular biology and i almost double majored in economics. (about 2 classes short) cornell grades on a curve, so # of F's = #of A's. w/ a 3.2, i did better than the majority of students there.


=|


Cornell College or University? I ask because I'm checking out Cornell College and haven't heard a thing about a curve.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
2
0
Originally posted by: theNEOone
hell no. i got a 1210 and went to cornell (median was something like 1350 when i went) and i graduated w/ a 3.2. i majored in molecular biology and i almost double majored in economics. (about 2 classes short) cornell grades on a curve, so # of F's = #of A's. w/ a 3.2, i did better than the majority of students there.


=|

Well, I got a 1480 and went to Cornell too, and I graduated with a 3.9 in EE.

1480/1210 = 1.22
3.9/3.2 = 1.22

Coincidence? I think not :D
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
16,754
64
91
No. Admissions offices just use them because there is no other quick way to judge applicants "objectively" i.e. high school gpa's can be skewed depending on what kind of HS a student goes to. Large universities don't have the time to look at each applicant individually so they just use a bullshit test to help organize the applicants.
 

Gurck

Banned
Mar 16, 2004
12,963
1
0
In a word, No. There's far more to success than having the tools; you need to use them.
 

DingDingDao

Diamond Member
Jun 9, 2004
3,044
0
71
Originally posted by: theNEOone
Originally posted by: judge
No sat test is just that a test. Some people do on test really good and some don't
the way i look at it is college/university is just a game. The way i look at school, you play the game right and you get your batchilor degree. If you want to get ahead of the game then go for masters/ law school
lol, i want to know what game you play to get your "batchilor" degree. jesus kid, where are you going to school, at a community college?


=|

LOL.

I got mai batchilor's digreeh in bye-awwwlugee. :confused:
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
24,227
3
76
Originally posted by: judge
No sat test is just that a test. Some people do on test really good and some don't
the way i look at it is college/university is just a game. The way i look at school, you play the game right and you get your batchilor degree. If you want to get ahead of the game then go for masters/ law school

obviously you lost this game
 
Aug 14, 2001
11,061
0
0
It's not a completely accurage measurement. However, I would guess that the higher SAT scores would correlate to better success in college..on average of course.
 

DingDingDao

Diamond Member
Jun 9, 2004
3,044
0
71
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
It's not a completely accurage measurement. However, I would guess that the higher SAT scores would correlate to better success in college..on average of course.

Agreed. Obviously, there are exceptions to every rule, but I think one could safely assume that, on average, someone with a 1500 SAT score will be more successful in college than someone with a 900.