Is the Radeon 8500 64mb that much better than the 128mb

bullion416

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Is the Radeon 8500 64mb card that much better than the Radeon 8500 128mb card? I found a decent 64mb one for $72 shipped and a 128mb for $93 shipped. What one should I buy? (have you found the 128mb any cheaper than about $88?)
 

spanky

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it's better, but not by much in terms of fps in games. i like my 64mb 8500 a lot. as a matter of fact, i am gonna take out my ti4200 soon and put the 8500 back in. :)
 

WarSong

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I would be more concerned about clock speeds than 64 vs. 128. With a 1.4GHz proc I don't think you will notice the difference in memory much if any. Are these built by ATI cards?
 

BoomAM

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In games that have very big textures, such as UT2003 and future games, the 128mb version will be better.
But it`ll probably be clocked slower than the 64mb version, but you can clock it yourself back to "normal" speeds.

IMO, go for the 128mb version and OC it as far as you can.
 

movinslow

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
I agree, 128mb is more future-proof. 25mhz in clock speed is barely noticeable.
You must be comparing 8500 64mb with 8500LE 128mb.

I have a built by ati 8500(non le) 128mb clocked at 275/275. That's standard.
As far as 64 v. 128, depends. If you don't mind spending the extra $20, go for 128mb. If you're gonna get a better card, say within a year, you could get the 64mb. Newer cards will have 128mb memory and faster clock speeds.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: spankyOO7
it's better, but not by much in terms of fps in games. i like my 64mb 8500 a lot. as a matter of fact, i am gonna take out my ti4200 soon and put the 8500 back in. :)

why?????
 

Tates

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I've owned both the 64mb and 128mb retail versions (275/275). The 128mb is the better card.
 

Brian48

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If this vendor is offering the 128mb version (an LE I assume) at noticably lower prices, it's probably because it's one of the recent versions with butt slow memory modules. Personally, I'd pass on it unless I can get a guarantee that the clock settings are at least 250/250.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: spankyOO7
it's better, but not by much in terms of fps in games. i like my 64mb 8500 a lot. as a matter of fact, i am gonna take out my ti4200 soon and put the 8500 back in. :)

why?????

cause 8500's are sweet!! :D
i got one in my other rig and I like the way it runs UT2K3 more than my 128MB TI4200.
 

Goose77

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quick question about clock speeds. i just bought the ALL-IN-WONDER 8500DV retail from best buy for $170 and my clock is 230/190. did i just get screwed??
 

Mockmaw

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Uhh, anyone have any links of benchmarks to actually backup their claims of 128 is faster than 64? I've yet to see any, but perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places..
 

WarSong

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Originally posted by: Goose77
quick question about clock speeds. i just bought the ALL-IN-WONDER 8500DV retail from best buy for $170 and my clock is 230/190. did i just get screwed??

No, that is the standard speed for the DV model
 

BoomAM

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Originally posted by: Mockmaw
Uhh, anyone have any links of benchmarks to actually backup their claims of 128 is faster than 64? I've yet to see any, but perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places..

There are very few game out at the moment that use very high resolution textures.
What most of us are saying is, that games WILL get more detailed textures, that will take up far more room than a 64mb card can cope with.
So with a 128mb card, you wont get as much slowdown as with a 64mb card.
The 64mb card will have to get the data that it cant store from the system memory, which is far slower than having the extra memory on the card itself.
 

WarSong

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Originally posted by: BoomAM
Originally posted by: Mockmaw
Uhh, anyone have any links of benchmarks to actually backup their claims of 128 is faster than 64? I've yet to see any, but perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places..

There are very few game out at the moment that use very high resolution textures.
What most of us are saying is, that games WILL get more detailed textures, that will take up far more room than a 64mb card can cope with.
So with a 128mb card, you wont get as much slowdown as with a 64mb card.
The 64mb card will have to get the data that it cant store from the system memory, which is far slower than having the extra memory on the card itself.

By the time that happens, wouldn't you be probably looking for a new vid card anyways? :D
 

BoomAM

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There are actually several games out at the moment that use very high resolution(UT2003&Splinter Cell), and probably 6/10 of games released from now onwards will also use very high res textures.
 

BFG10K

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I think there's some confusion in the original question as a 128 MB Radeon 8500 is always faster than the 64 MB version. I suspect the actual comparison is whether the 128 MB 8500 LE is faster than the 64 MB 8500. The answer to this question is of course, yes. The same applies to the the Ti4200 situation.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: bullion416
I can't seem to find a Radeon 8500 128mb with a clock speed of 275 Mhz.........can you?

i havent seen any for sale new since maybe november or december
tho, 25mhz cant make that big of a difference, my 8500le isnt a bad card at all
 

movinslow

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Originally posted by: bullion416
I can't seem to find a Radeon 8500 128mb with a clock speed of 275 Mhz.........can you?
Check the For Sale board here. That's how I got mine. :)
 

spanky

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: spankyOO7
it's better, but not by much in terms of fps in games. i like my 64mb 8500 a lot. as a matter of fact, i am gonna take out my ti4200 soon and put the 8500 back in. :)

why?????

becuz the 3d image quality for the radeon 8500 is really that much better. i only play CS, so the fps difference does not bother me that much.