Is the Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 45 better than the IBM 75GXP?

Goi

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My friend just got a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 45. I recommended it to him over the 75GXP despite there being an apparent lack of reviews on the web, simply because the DiamondMax Plus 40 was already very close in performance to the 75GXP, so I assumed the DiamondMax Plus 45 would leapfrog the 75GXP performance-wise. Storagereview.com doesn't have a review of it yet...wondering if any of you know of places that do?
 

Insane3D

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IBM 75GXP is the best IDE hard drive available now, IMHO.
Maxtor's are nice too, just not quite up to the IBM's level.
 

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I am afraid that I would like to think that the Maxtor is better than the IBM, I think that Maxtor's are very good
 

Goi

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Hmmn, I'm talking about the Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 45, not the DiamondMax Plus 40...
 

andylawcc

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the performance differences is SO small!

it doesn't matter, price does.

usually Maxtor is cheaper...
 

Goi

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It is quite a bit cheaper. My friend got it for SG$245, which is around US$145
 

JellyBaby

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With any new product, I always recommend waiting. How do you know that new Maxtor isn't incredibly noisy? Perhaps the Big M changed a component or two and its drives now sound like a popcorn maker.
 

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My last 4 hard drives have been maxtor, why?

1)their reliable, never had any problems
2)very cheap, competative prices that blow the competition away
3)technology leader, YES...haven't you noticed that they are always the ones with the biggest hard drive size to offer??

Me and my friend were both building a system at the same time, I recommended him to get a maxtor hard drive but he refused and got a western digital(which was rated high on reviews). Well six months down the line, my maxtor was sailing smoothly while his WD crapped out on him. Tech Support gave him migranes and he never managed to recieve his warranty through customer service, then he ended up buying a maxtor.
 

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You will always find someone who has a HDD horror story no matter what manuf. but I stick with IBM.

Have a 4 year old IBM that's been on more than off, no bad sectors. Slow as hell but chugging along fine. Have a 2 year old Maxtor with multiple bad sectors, it almost went down permanently but luckily Spinrite brought it back to life temporarily.

Just picked up a IBM75GXP, very fast and so far reliable. Can't imagine the 45plus will be noticeably faster.
 

KarsinTheHutt

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I like my Maxtor DiamondMax 40+. Hasn't given me a lick of trouble yet. Barely audible under win98, slightly noisier with win2k and Mandrake linux
 

DaddyG

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I have to say that IBM has forgotten more about harddrives than Maxtor will ever know. Overclock your PCI bus and Maxtors will be the first to puke.
 

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I currently have the maxtor diamond max plus 40 and the drive works great. I have also had ibm drives and they are nice too.

Basicaly, you will not notice the difference in speed between the two.
 

hans007

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the diamond max 40 plus has 10 gig platters, and the 75gxp has 15 gig ones. that makes the 75gxp faster
 

Goi

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Ugh...why is is that people think I'm talking about the DiamondMax Plus 40? The topic says DiamondMax Plus 45, and I've re-iterated this in a separate post...Its the new DiamondMax Plus 45! Not the 40! The 45 has 15GB platters too.

Anyway, thanks for all the posts. The PCI bus is running at default 33MHz since its in a pencil-unlocked Duron system so no overclocking of the FSB/PCI bus is needed.
 

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The maxtor 45 is a sweet drive @ a great price imho. 15 gig platter <8.7ms seek. I'm getting one beginning of October for $139 canadian (15gig) I was deciding between the Quantum LM , IBM 75gxp, and said Maxtor. They are all awesome drives, but i'm going with the maxtor because of the ata100, the 15gig platter, 2mb buffer, and above all the value.
 

Goi

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Thanks. Any reviews of it though? Especially pitting it against the IBM 75GXP.
 

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This is funny. All of these replies but no one that used the two drives in the same rig! :p

Here it is: A freind and I tested a Maxtor +45 in an A7V for a review we are writing up, but the scores were really low on the ATA100 controller. We assumed the Maxtor was a piece.

I then took an IBM drive to the motherboard later and the scores were not any better, so I figured maybe there was something wrong with the board.

I moved BOTH DRIVES over to a Microstar board with a Promise ATA100 controller card. At first I hooked up the IBM to the ATA100 card and the Maxtor to the board. The scores were MUCH BETTER, but the Maxtor was just on the heels of the IBM drive. I switched there positions and the IBM got plastered by the Maxtor with the Maxtor scores just higher thanthe IBMs when the IBM was on the ATA100 controller.

What's funny is that where I work we always carried the Maxtor drive. We only got the IBM because everyone was calling saying it was the best drive out. Why? Because that's what it says all over the internet.

Just goes to show you can't always believe what you read.

So IBM vs. Maxtor: At ATA66, the Maxtor drive was MUCH faster than the IBM @ ATA 66. At ATA100 the Maxtor was just slightly faster than the IBM.

Why Maxtor? It's cheaper and more readily available than IBM and quite honestly the reliability is good.

I can't post scores because, as I said, it's for a column we are doing for another site.
 

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Last time I checked the Maxtors had a problem running in a RAID setup. I'd wait for a review before I put my money on one of these babies, especially if RAID is your thing.
 

Insane3D

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I do not doubt the Maxtor and the IBM are close in performance, but I think the IBM is a better quality drive than the Maxtor in my opinion. I am not saying the Maxtor is junk or is a cheap drive, I just think it is not on the same level as the IBM.

Jonny Guru:

Thanks for the info on actually comparing the drives in the same system. I am curious however, did you try any other ATA/100 controller other than the Promise. In what I have seen so far, the Promise still lags a little behind the Highpoint 390, but I am not sure if it is available in a controller card format yet. Another thing to consider is noise. I know from my 75GXP's that they are extremely quiet...is the Maxtor? One thing nobody has metioned is the platter material on the IBM's...it is made of glass if I am not mistaken. All other IDE drives,to my knowledge, use aluminum. I think either drive would be perform well, but I still believe IBM has a much better track record when it comes to IDE drives...especially in overclocked systems. Just my opinion.:)
 

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here is my xperience
i had a 3 year old maxtor 5 gig that is pretty reliable except that it once lost a partition for no reason and these days is going really loud and slow
i got a 75gxp 30 gig recently for 130. havent used it yet though
 

jonnyGURU

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Insane 3D: The Maxtor is louder than the IBM. As far as a reputation of being more reliable, I don't think anybody has enought data on both drives to make a judgement call. I've had two WDs die on me. That doesn't mean they suck. That means I SUCK when I use WDs! ;) Anyhoo, I did try to use a Highpoint based Abit board, but it burst into flames and then it cost me $25 to replace. No,,, just kidding. I had only tried the Promise controller. It may be interesting to try the Abit for comparison, but considering that the Promise is so &quot;available&quot;, trying it on a Highpoint controller never really came to mind.

As for my experiences with Maxtor, they're pretty good. After the first WD died, I replaced it with a Maxtor. Then my wife's WD died, so I put the Maxtor in her PC and bought myself a larger Maxtor. After a couple weeks, I traded that in for a WD (what? Am I crazy?) because someone had missed priced an ATA66 7200 RPM drive. ;) Then, I bought ANOTHER WD because I wanted a huge ass drive for cheap and the Maxtors were out of stock that day. :p

At work where I see about a hundred drives a week, I have to tell you honestly that between WD, Maxtor, Seagate, IBM, Fujitsu and Samsung, we get the same percentage back on ALL of them (3-5%), so does anybody's personal experience really matter? :p

That just about sums me up right there. This is me. :D That above paragraph. Think I'll take in a movie.