Is the League of Women Voters really nonpartisan?

[Don Vito Corleone]

Is there any issue? any single issue that isn't or can't be considered a woman's issue? Even if you want to say prostate cancer or the draft it's still a women's issue. Women are the wives, mothers, sisters and daughters of us all. There's really no such thing as a woman's issue. Everything is a man and woman's issue.

Women's reproductive rights are, by and large, a women's issue, and when they have morons on the Republican side calling women "sluts" for daring to advocate in favor of their own personal freedoms, the only once to blame for the LWV siding with Democratic causes is the Republicans themselves.

 

[monovillage]

Since when is Andover, MA in California?

As I said, the fact that one party champions women's rights while the other categorically rejects them means that the LWV is very likely to side with the pro-woman party. Your objection to this is, like everything else you write here, motivated entirely by your own partisan bias.

The first was my own experience locally with a highly partisan LWV. The second was an president of a LWV chapter that resigned since the LWV had broken their non-partisan stance.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Gee, someone had a problem and resigned?
Boo fucking hoo.

In todays toxic political atmosphere its to be expected.

Really, thats your argument?

Really, that's yours?

The LWV has clearly made a specific decision to change their traditional role.

 

[monovillage]

Women's reproductive rights are, by and large, a women's issue, and when they have morons on the Republican side calling women "sluts" for daring to advocate in favor of their own personal freedoms, the only once to blame for the LWV siding with Democratic causes is the Republicans themselves.

The Propositions here in California were not women's reproduction Propositions. Nor were they about sluts and/or abortion.

 

[Schmide]

When did non-partisan become "agrees with Fox News?"

 

[monovillage]

When did non-partisan become "agrees with Fox News?"

It never did, when did saying something that stupid get you credit?

 

[shira]

So a political organization whose positions just happen to be in accordance with one political party is non-partisan?

If a scientist publishes a peer-reviewed study that provides evidence of human evolution via natural selection, would you claim that such a scientist is "partisan?"

Now, if a scientist publishes a peer-reviewed study that provides evidence of MMCC, would you say that such a scientist is "partisan?"

If the objective truth happens to be aligned with the beliefs of liberals, that doesn't make those who believe that truth to be "partisan."

 

[nehalem256]

Universal health care most definitely is. Global warming is a legitimate, nonpartisan issue for them to adopt - as recently as 2008 the GOP ran a presidential nominee who believed in man-made global warming.

I do not trust, for one second, your independence when it comes to any issue involving women in any way, since you seem to unapologetically hate them (a sentiment which is, no doubt, mutual).

Universal health care is not a "woman's issue" unless you are arguing men do not need health care.

Global warming is not a "woman's issue" unless you think men do not live on Earth. Hint: if you want men to be women's your slaves it helps to have them on the same planet.

 

[nehalem256]

Women's reproductive rights are, by and large, a women's issue, and when they have morons on the Republican side calling women "sluts" for daring to advocate in favor of their own personal freedoms, the only once to blame for the LWV siding with Democratic causes is the Republicans themselves.

Women's reproductive rights, by which you mean abortion... please try and learn the difference between plural and singular.

Republican's called women sluts when the advocated in favor of making other people pay for their own personal freedom (specifically sexual behavior)

If a scientist publishes a peer-reviewed study that provides evidence of human evolution via natural selection, would you claim that such a scientist is "partisan?"

Now, if a scientist publishes a peer-reviewed study that provides evidence of MMCC, would you say that such a scientist is "partisan?"

If the objective truth happens to be aligned with the beliefs of liberals, that doesn't make those who believe that truth to be "partisan."

A scientist is not a political organization.

Nor does taking a position on a single issue make you a partisan organization.

But when you beliefs and advocacy on a multitude of issues "just happen" to line up with one particular party...

 

[Athena]

While the league doesn't give money to or endorse candidates, when you have one party whose platform is very much at odds with the issues the league supports, and the league is giving money to stop that parties platform it makes you wonder.

Well yes, you do have to wonder about the political climate in this country. The individual mandate was first proposed by the Heritage Foundation. Mitt Romney implemented it during his tenure as a "severely conservative" governor. The whole idea suddenly became "left leaning" when Obama embraced it.

The issues you cite were relatively non-controversial a decade ago but when the Republican economic policies produced a major recession, the Tea Party became the vanguard of the party and evangelicals broke with science. When you think about the way the party itself has twisted itself into knots over the years, it's no surprise it chose such a changeable candidate.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Well yes, you do have to wonder about the political climate in this country. The individual mandate was first proposed by the Heritage Foundation. Mitt Romney implemented it during his tenure as a "severely conservative" governor. The whole idea suddenly became "left leaning" when Obama embraced it.

When was Romney ever severely conservative?

 

[monovillage]

Well yes, you do have to wonder about the political climate in this country. The individual mandate was first proposed by the Heritage Foundation. Mitt Romney implemented it during his tenure as a "severely conservative" governor. The whole idea suddenly became "left leaning" when Obama embraced it.

The issues you cite were relatively non-controversial a decade ago but when the Republican economic policies produced a major recession, the Tea Party became the vanguard of the party and evangelicals broke with science. When you think about the way the party itself has twisted itself into knots over the years, it's no surprise it chose such a changeable candidate.

Is the League of Women Voters really non-partisan? or have they just become another group of lobbyists and fund raisers for the Democratic party?

 

[nehalem256]

When was Romney ever severely conservative?

I am sure that at some point during his campaign Romney was severely conservative

 

[nehalem256]

The issues you cite were relatively non-controversial a decade ago but when the Republican economic policies produced a major recession, the Tea Party became the vanguard of the party and evangelicals broke with science. When you think about the way the party itself has twisted itself into knots over the years, it's no surprise it chose such a changeable candidate.

Abortion and universal health care have not been non-controversial for decades.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Universal health care is not a "woman's issue" unless you are arguing men do not need health care.

Global warming is not a "woman's issue" unless you think men do not live on Earth. Hint: if you want men to be women's your slaves it helps to have them on the same planet.

Are you saying the LWV should only support issues that ONLY benefit women? Universal health care is an issue of particular concern for women because their need for routine medical care is greater than that of men.

I don't understand your incoherent post regarding global warming. I gather it relates to women keeping men as slaves, which is consistent with your bizarro anti-female agenda. I can't imagine that has been a real-world issue for you since I can't imagine a woman being bothered to talk to you, much less enslave you.

 

[ShawnD1]

Here in California the LWV had positions on several Propositions and spent huge amount of dollars advertising and lobbying for these Propositions. They also had political forums where their questions and interviews of candidates were blatantly pro-Democrat and anti-Republican. I have no problem with them being a Democrat organization, but they're not a "non-partisan" group nor should they be considered one.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/0...es-resigns-in-protest-of-anti-scott-brown-ad/

Guys like you are why America is doomed to fail. One party can be wrong on almost every issue and still be taken seriously. The women voters try to stay in this thing called reality, and that automatically makes them partisan hacks.

Examples:
-Nearly 100% of scientists say that young earth creationism is bullshit. If any news agency reports this, republicans declare that the news agency and scientists are all partisan.
-Nearly 100% of climate scientists say that global warming caused by CO2 is real. If a news agency reports this, republicans declare that the news agency and scientists are partisan.
-Every study about abortion has concluded that legalizing abortion saves lives because women get back-alley abortions in the countries where it is illegal. When this is pointed out, republicans say the studies and news agencies are partisan.

As Colbert has pointed out, reality has a liberal bias.

But when you beliefs and advocacy on a multitude of issues "just happen" to line up with one particular party..

This will stop being a problem when republicans stop living in a fantasy world where a Muslim Kenyan is only lowering the taxes on the middle class so he can gain peoples' trust before he raises their taxes and declares USA an officially communist and possibly atheist country.

 

[monovillage]

Examples:
-Nearly 100% of scientists say that young earth creationism is bullshit. If any news agency reports this, republicans declare that the news agency and scientists are all partisan.
-Nearly 100% of climate scientists say that global warming caused by CO2 is real. If a news agency reports this, republicans declare that the news agency and scientists are partisan.
-Every study about abortion has concluded that legalizing abortion saves lives because women get back-alley abortions in the countries where it is illegal. When this is pointed out, republicans say the studies and news agencies are partisan.

1.-Are you stupid? Where did you get the idea I believe in creationism?

2.- Newsflash douche bag, Anthropogenic CO2 contributes to global warming, i've stated so numerous times and don't disagree with that statement.

3.- I support abortion and have no problem with any woman that wants one to have one.

STRIKE OUT ! 0 for 3 statements.

 

[nehalem256]

-Every study about abortion has concluded that legalizing abortion saves lives because women get back-alley abortions in the countries where it is illegal. When this is pointed out, republicans say the studies and news agencies are partisan.

The study is fundamentally flawed. Why should saving the lives of murderers be a concern?

 

[hal2kilo]

The study is fundamentally flawed. Why should saving the lives of murderers be a concern?

You my sir are beyond the pale.

 

[ShawnD1]

1.-Are you stupid? Where did you get the idea I believe in creationism?

Maybe you don't, but a large percentage of republicans do.
2008 election question
All of the states pushing creationism or "equal time" in schools are red states. Religious schizophrenia in the GOP doesn't end with creationism; they also believe in demonic possession. article:

Less than one week away from the election, a terrifying new poll reveals that more than two-thirds of registered Republican voters believe that people can be possessed by demons.

A staggering 68 percent of registered Republican voters stated that they believe demonic possession is real. Meanwhile, only 48 percent of self-identified Republicans believe in another equally if not more scary natural phenomenon: climate change.

2.- Newsflash douche bag, Anthropogenic CO2 contributes to global warming, i've stated so numerous times and don't disagree with that statement.

See above article. Less than half of registered republicans think CO2 leading to global warming is a real thing. More than half think demonic possession is real. Maybe Obama is a Muslim Kenyan who is also possessed by a demon!

3.- I support abortion and have no problem with any woman that wants one to have one.

And republicans will disagree with you. The top GOP guys, Santorum and Romney, both pledged to put anti-abortion people in the supreme court, enough to overturn Roe vs Wade. That's not a random screw-up where the party leaders are disconnected from the members. Republicans and abortion rights:

The percent of Americans who identify as “pro-choice” regarding legalized abortion is at a new low of 41 percent, according to a newly released Gallup poll. The figure is one percent lower than the previous all-time low registered by Gallup, which was in May 2009.
The decline appears to fall along party lines, with the percent of Republicans identifying as “pro-choice” decreasing from 28 percent last May, to 22 percent in this most recent poll. Democrats remain somewhat consistent, around 60 percent identify as pro-choice.

Only 22% of republicans believe abortion should be legal. The other 78% agree that Romney and Santorum are doing the right thing by pledging to overturn the court ruling that legalized abortion in the first place.

Judging by your positions, you should not be a republican. Your beliefs and their beliefs are not similar.

 

[monovillage]

And some Democrats will agree/disagree with the same thing,as you well know.

I also partially hang out in the Libertarian camp and even agree with Democrats on some things.
Only liars, fools and tools agree with their stated party and party leaders 100% of the time.

 

[ShawnD1]

Another thing I forgot to post that is loosely related to LWV being a bunch of partisan hacks who mostly side with democrats: women, blacks, and latinos show overwhelming support for democrats.

http://www.newser.com/story/155093/women-favor-obama-by-18-points.html

The poll has Obama ahead 49% to 45% overall, but his support among women is especially strong at 56% to 38%, and his support among blacks is nearly unanimous at 94% to 2%

women = partisan hacks
latinos = partisan hacks
blacks = partisan blacks

 

[ShawnD1]

The study is fundamentally flawed. Why should saving the lives of murderers be a concern?

Flip this around for a second. Women who want to get abortions are insane murderers, correct? Forcing them to have a baby means that you want children to be raised by insane murderous mothers who hate their children and hate the fact that they couldn't kill their child before it was born. Does this sound like it makes sense? To republicans, yes it does make sense. We definitely need more children raised by psychopath single mothers who rely on the government for basic things like housing and food. That will make the next generation of Americans even more intelligenter and smarter!

 

[nehalem256]

Flip this around for a second. Women who want to get abortions are insane murderers, correct? Forcing them to have a baby means that you want children to be raised by insane murderous mothers who hate their children and hate the fact that they couldn't kill their child before it was born. Does this sound like it makes sense? To republicans, yes it does make sense. We definitely need more children raised by psychopath single mothers who rely on the government for basic things like housing and food. That will make the next generation of Americans even more intelligenter and smarter!

Haha.

So what you are saying is that Democrats are supporting eugenics?

To be honest both Democrats and Republicans are insane on abortion.

EDIT:

Republicans want to force insane murders to raise children,

And democrats want to leave important life choices up to pregnant teenagers (clearly because they have demonstrated such good judgement).

 

[monovillage]

Another thing I forgot to post that is loosely related to LWV being a bunch of partisan hacks who mostly side with democrats: women, blacks, and latinos show overwhelming support for democrats.

http://www.newser.com/story/155093/women-favor-obama-by-18-points.html

women = partisan hacks
latinos = partisan hacks
blacks = partisan blacks

So about 4 out of 10 women think Barium Obama is an asshole and they voted for Romney? 4 out of 10?