Basically, I need to buy a GFX card to replace my old X1950 Pro. I'm thinking of the HD5770 but I see conflicting reviews on performance on the net. I play at 1680x1050 and I want to be able to play future games such as Crysis 2 when it comes out, at a reasonable-high standard. So anyone with thoughts or opinions? The card is affordable for me, and I can't really shoot for a HD5850 as much as I want to, being on a student budget and all, unless it really is as good as people say.
Is the HD5770 future proof?
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It's semi-future proof because of the dx11 support and the crossfire numbers looked promising if you decide that one is not enough. That said, nothing is future proof. There aren't dx11 games yet to compare. So good luck. But it looks like a good buy all things considered.
Hmmm yeah, I think I'll go with the HD5770. I mean, it can only get better in terms of driver support, and since it competes with the already established and optimised HD4870, I think it's worth a gander.
It really is as good as people say. The 5850 is practically twice the card that the 5770 is (hence reviews saying the 5770 is way overpriced.)
Do you need to buy it NOW? If so, that 5770 is probably your best bet. If not, I'd wait till supply catches demand for the 5850 (a couple of months at most I'd say), which should bring the price down to your range.
yh125d
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You're expecting WAY more than your budget allows. For one, there is no such thing as future proof. It is a useless term. Also, no card out today will play Crysis 2 at high settings. You need to lower your expectations I think, because that's asking a lot on a budget that isn't
In the long term, I don't think DX11 support in the 5770 will matter much. By the time games begin to truly take advantage of DX11 for more than a few gimmicky features, the 5770 will be too slow anyway. It wasn't long ago that games started to take advantage of DX10, yet how many play games in DX10 mode on something like a GeForce 8600?
Also, I was never really bothered by the lack of PS3.0 support in my X800XT which I used for 3 years. PS 3.0 only mattered when you maxed out all settings, which wasn't possible on the 6800 either towards the end.
So I really don't think the 5770 is any more future proof than a 4870. The 5850 or 5870 are much more future proof, but currently slightly overpriced because of the lack of competition.
I'm also a student, and I'm definitely waiting until the 5850 falls below the $200 mark. But then I'm already using a 4850, which is quite a bit faster than the X1950.
Of course, if you have a Crossfire-capable board, you can buy one 5770 now and then just add another one later when they're even cheaper and games start to need the extra power.
Also, I was never really bothered by the lack of PS3.0 support in my X800XT which I used for 3 years. PS 3.0 only mattered when you maxed out all settings, which wasn't possible on the 6800 either towards the end.
So I really don't think the 5770 is any more future proof than a 4870. The 5850 or 5870 are much more future proof, but currently slightly overpriced because of the lack of competition.
I'm also a student, and I'm definitely waiting until the 5850 falls below the $200 mark. But then I'm already using a 4850, which is quite a bit faster than the X1950.
Of course, if you have a Crossfire-capable board, you can buy one 5770 now and then just add another one later when they're even cheaper and games start to need the extra power.
yh125d
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Obviously you didn't read my post, or read it too fast. What I said was...
Which I am completely confident is true. That no card out today will satisfactorily play Crysis *2* (whenever it comes out) at high settings (with op's res of 1680x1050 assumed)
EDIT: Definitely no card in OP's budget, which seems to be ~<$200
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Probably till the next console considering most of the PC games consist of console ports.
Crysis 2 is supposed to be less demanding than the original and you guessed it.. It will be a console port.
Seriously you don't need much to play latest PC games. A 8800gt can do 1680x1050 just fine.
If I were to upgrade and want to have some breathing room I would get 5850. 5770 is good for now but it's not a compelling card for future unless dx11 games start kicking in but I doubt it because of console ports.
I would get a 4870/gtx260 before I get 5770.
Crysis 2 is supposed to be less demanding than the original and you guessed it.. It will be a console port.
Seriously you don't need much to play latest PC games. A 8800gt can do 1680x1050 just fine.
If I were to upgrade and want to have some breathing room I would get 5850. 5770 is good for now but it's not a compelling card for future unless dx11 games start kicking in but I doubt it because of console ports.
I would get a 4870/gtx260 before I get 5770.
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yeah I didnt see the 2. still its not probably not going to be much more demanding. if anything it might be less demanding at similar settings as those in the current games since supposedly it will have DX11 and be better threaded. we also know a great deal of their focus is on consoles too so they are probably looking at more efficient use of resources rather than just a huge graphical leap.
I think I will sit and wait for a HD5850. Its just I've been dying to play Resident Evil 5, which isn't supported on my X1950 Pro, which has faithfully served me for 2 and half years. My board is capable of CrossFire, with 2 8x Lanes, but I want the single card solution initially. Also, I'm from the UK, so the HD5850 is even more expensive here, so I don't want to wait too long, especially to wait for Fermi if it ever arises. Thanks anyway guys.
An 8800GTX is still a fine, fine example of hardware capable of powering through all but one of today's games at high settings and resolutions. And in SLI it'll even give the latest gen a run for the money. It was introduced mid 2007.
On a more personal note, my factory OC 8800GT 512 still does most everything I ask it to do and it turns 2 years old in December. It should be usable as a value/budget card well into 2010.
toyota
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yeah but it wasnt really that long till cards costing 1/3 the price could match or beat it. a lot of people just hang on to theirs because they realize they spent a shit load of money on it. also there are at least 3 games it would struggle with so its not just Crysis.
Now that part is true -- highest end video cards rarely hold their full value for very long. In the case of the 8800GTX it was 6 months until a credible challenger (from Nvidia) in the form of the 8800GTS came on the scene.
Still, there is some value in having the best and having it early. Sure, this time next year there will probably be a midrange card to match the 5870 and sell for $170. But I'd be willing to bet a beer you won't see a ( $370 / 3 = $123 ) card any time soon to perform that feat. And in the case of the $260 5750? Good luck waiting for that $87 value card with equivalent performance. Maybe in 2011.
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I'm still running my x1950xt, it's still serving me well enough, until I hit RE5 just recently. I just KNOW it can handle RE5, but dammit, why won't the game let me play!?
Because the X1950XT is not a DX10 card? It's a DX9 card. Which is one of the reasons I held off and got an 8800GT vs a cheaper and similarly performing 1950XT. I think the same sorts of issues will rear their ugly heads again 2 years into the DX11 lifetime.
Same thing happened with my X850XT. No PS3.0. The card was fast enough to run Oblivion HDR+AA with at 1280x1024, but didn't have the features to. I had to upgrade well before the previous card was truly unusable.
As for your situation: get a 4850 for below $100, or the hot deal $70 9800GT. It'll be a very, very nice upgrade and play what you want. In a year or two when it doesn't, get the 6850 or 7850 or NV equivalent. You can't have champagne tastes on a beer budget and not be disappointed. The 4770 and 4750 are a waste of money at their current price.
Same thing happened with my X850XT. No PS3.0. The card was fast enough to run Oblivion HDR+AA with at 1280x1024, but didn't have the features to. I had to upgrade well before the previous card was truly unusable.
As for your situation: get a 4850 for below $100, or the hot deal $70 9800GT. It'll be a very, very nice upgrade and play what you want. In a year or two when it doesn't, get the 6850 or 7850 or NV equivalent. You can't have champagne tastes on a beer budget and not be disappointed. The 4770 and 4750 are a waste of money at their current price.
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