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tec699

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This guy I know told me that he visited a site that told you how to make homemade bombs. The next thing he knows FBI agents come to his house and ask him a few questions! They know everything about him: What college he attends, favorite foods, his girlfriend, etc... EVERYTHING!!

And he tells me that if you go on Kazzaa and download porn and the girls are under 18 yrs old, the FBI agents will come to your house and arrest you. And they know if your downloading MP3's, games etc...

I wonder if their watching us know?

:Q
 
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Wuffsunie

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And now they know that you know.

Quick, smash your hard drive!! They're coming for you!!
 
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Amorphus

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Likely this guy was talking about em in public like a fool, and somebody overheard and reported him. Awhile ago, probably, cuz it sounds like the FBI did a bit of background info.
 
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Encryptic

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Originally posted by: tec699
This guy I know told me that he visited a site that told you how to make homemade bombs. The next thing he knows FBI agents come to his house and ask him a few questions! They know everything about him: What college he attends, favorite foods, his girlfriend, etc... EVERYTHING!!

And he tells me that if you go on Kazzaa and download porn and the girls are under 18 yrs old, the FBI agents will come to your house and arrest you. And they know if your downloading MP3's, games etc...

I wonder if their watching us know?

:Q
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I call shenanigans. Yes, it's entirely possible that you're being watched. However, I doubt the FBI is watching every schnook who downloads porn off of Kazaa.
 
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SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: tec699
This guy I know told me that he visited a site that told you how to make homemade bombs. The next thing he knows FBI agents come to his house and ask him a few questions! They know everything about him: What college he attends, favorite foods, his girlfriend, etc... EVERYTHING!! And he tells me that if you go on Kazzaa and download porn and the girls are under 18 yrs old, the FBI agents will come to your house and arrest you. And they know if your downloading MP3's, games etc... I wonder if their watching us know? :Q
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Did this guy neglect to tell you that he ordered some materials for the same?

It was just on the news 200 something people busted for charging child porn sites on their credit cards.
 
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Ynog

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
carnivore
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While I don't know if carnivore is on every ISP or none at all. But
I don't think its used to see someone downloading porn, musics or games.
And I doubt if you do a search on homemade bombs and went to
a site, the FBI will be coming to your house for a visit. I doubt if you did
a search for making dirty bombs the FBI would go to your house.
Likewise, if you went to an anti-US site do you think the FBI is coming
to your house. Think of the number of people who probably download
porn and the number of agents that would require the FBI to have to
investigate every single one.
 
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alkemyst

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the way carnivore is supposed to work is to grab keywords.

So many keyword hits gets a message flagged.

flagged messages get reviewed.

I haven't looked into it much, but it wouldn't be that hard to tie into the top backbones and get the traffic.

Å
 
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Ryan

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Your friends a dumbass. Terminate him, he's clouding the gene pool.
 
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Ogg

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
the way carnivore is supposed to work is to grab keywords.

So many keyword hits gets a message flagged.

flagged messages get reviewed.

I haven't looked into it much, but it wouldn't be that hard to tie into the top backbones and get the traffic.

Å
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Yeah, we've done it here in my group, currently amassing 3 TB/wk. We're watching 80% of all traffic.
Oh I remember back in the 80's when we tapped into the OC's running under the frickin' ocean too.
I drive a cool car.

/Angstrom

Im not the fool that signs with Å but calls himself Alkemyst. My real name is Angstrom


Å
 
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PanzerIV

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I am always surprised by how few people know about Echelon. If anything should have you concerned, this is it. It's been around for awhile and brings all your paranoid fears to reality. Here is one link I pulled it giving a basic description but there are plenty more available. Makes for an interesting read to be sure.
 
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alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ogg

Yeah, we've done it here in my group, currently amassing 3 TB/wk. We're watching 80% of all traffic.
Oh I remember back in the 80's when we tapped into the OC's running under the frickin' ocean too.
I drive a cool car.

Alkemyst
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What is your obsession with me Ogg? Nice to hide behind the monitor eh? I know for a fact you'd not pull your crap if I was in front of you.

I'd suggest you look into Carnivore a bit and see how it can work pretty easy.

Of course for you tieing your own shoes and wiping your own a$$ are probably pretty big tasks.

However let's discuss the facts....

I must clearly be annoying you so much that you have taken it upon yourself to track me. So I win.

I could care less, really, of you using my Å in your posts, or mentioning me in you signature....it doesn't bother me...you realize I hide nothing of my life here right? so I win again.

It is clear you are a COWARD...you constantly comment like a whiny 3 year old in tons of threads, but will not participate. I think you have successfully crapped in every picture post thread here without once ever sharing. We all win, you mother looses....poor gal. You are doomed to die lonely and miserable.

So go away and play with your imaginary friends in the park.

loser

Å
 
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DT4K

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Originally posted by: Encryptic
I call shenanigans. Yes, it's entirely possible that you're being watched. However, I doubt the FBI is watching every schnook who downloads porn off of Kazaa.
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Nope, but i'd be willing to bet the NSA is.

Edit: there was a show on the History channel last night that mentioned that NSA system that monitors phone communications around the globe. It was about the hunt for Saddam and Bin Laden and about the times we thought we knew where they were due to eavesdropping of phone communications.
 
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PanzerIV

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Originally posted by: Shanti
Originally posted by: Encryptic
I call shenanigans. Yes, it's entirely possible that you're being watched. However, I doubt the FBI is watching every schnook who downloads porn off of Kazaa.
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Nope, but i'd be willing to bet the NSA is.
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They do have gigantic banks of computers that do nothing but analyze data all day, every day and never take a break...God only knows what they are flagging.
 
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DT4K

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I had a CS instructor who use to do some work for the NSA.
Did you know you can eavesdrop on a wired ethernet from quite some distance away?
 
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Ogg

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ogg

Yeah, we've done it here in my group, currently amassing 3 TB/wk. We're watching 80% of all traffic.
Oh I remember back in the 80's when we tapped into the OC's running under the frickin' ocean too.
I drive a cool car.

Alkemyst
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What is your obsession with me Ogg? Nice to hide behind the monitor eh? I know for a fact you'd not pull your crap if I was in front of you.

I'd suggest you look into Carnivore a bit and see how it can work pretty easy.

Of course for you tieing your own shoes and wiping your own a$$ are probably pretty big tasks.

However let's discuss the facts....

I must clearly be annoying you so much that you have taken it upon yourself to track me. So I win.

I could care less, really, of you using my Å in your posts, or mentioning me in you signature....it doesn't bother me...you realize I hide nothing of my life here right? so I win again.

It is clear you are a COWARD...you constantly comment like a whiny 3 year old in tons of threads, but will not participate. I think you have successfully crapped in every picture post thread here without once ever sharing. We all win, you mother looses....poor gal. You are doomed to die lonely and miserable.

So go away and play with your imaginary friends in the park.

loser

Å
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Your too easy, I Love it!!!
You're so big and mean, I think you're trying to hurt my feelings.
I will try even harder to help you blow a fuse everyday by participating, so go punch a wall Angstrom.

/Am having fun online at work neffing and Å cant take it.

 
alkemyst

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ogg

Your too easy, I Love it!!!
You're so big and mean, I think you're trying to hurt my feelings.
I will try even harder to help you blow a fuse everyday by participating, so go punch a wall Angstrom.

/Am having fun online at work neffing and Å cant take it.
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Hmmm I think you have my personality confused. Your postings do nothing for me. Just trying to save you the time.

How long did you spend researching out my Å and other things?

We really know who the one is that is jealous and blowing the fuse.....

I am sure we will meet one day.

Å
 
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