Is the fall of Apple slowly happening?

[AMDZen]

We were comparing stock configurations earlier because that's what 95% of the owners use.

I use it all the time for work. I need to be able to use SSH, wireless tethering and a browser all at the same time. If you don't, that's cool, but it's essential for me.

Its essential for me too and I can do all of that with my iPhone.

Nice made up stat on the 95%, I probably know 20 people with iPhones and more then half have them jailbroken

 

[Platypus]

So the whole reason iPhone is inferior to Android is these minor customizations? Sorry but even though I can do all of that on my iPhone (since its jailbroken) the iPhone's pro's over android far out weigh the few minor things that it can't do.

Flash support, on the other hand - is a major thing. Not sure why you chose to make your argument around something that most people couldn't care less about.

It's not really an argument, I'm just tired of reading 'nothing comes close to the iphone' because it's a ridiculous statement.

 

[Platypus]

Its essential for me too and I can do all of that with my iPhone.

Nice made up stat on the 95%, I probably know 20 people with iPhones and more then half have them jailbroken

It's 'essential for you too' yet you told me you can only think of one instance where you want to multitask in a post above?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Lol

 

[Adrenaline]

You call it hacking. I don't. Someone else did all the hacking, I just run a quick little app.

Why shouldn't everyone do this?

Besides even if you don't have backgrounder or are too stupid to download an app to jailbreak your phone you will have it in 1 month when 4.0 came out.

I can only think of ONE thing I need to have multitasking for, and thats listen to Pandora radio and play a game at the same time. Thats the only time I use multitasking. There are very very very few reasons that someone would need multitasking on an iPhone - especially with the 3GS now launching apps so quickly.

It is hacking, just because someone made it much easier, it is still a hack nonetheless.

I have an iPhone and backgrounder is a good app. Pandora on the other hand, I find to be complete crap unless you want to listen to an entire genre of music by the artist you picked and rarely ever hear a song by them. Slacker is better if you want to hear music by artists you pick. Shoutcast is a decent pick, slightly better than Pandora to me.

Also, The Justice Department is starting to look at Apple now, like they did to Microsoft in the past. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[AMDZen]

It's 'essential for you too' yet you told me you can only think of one instance where you want to multitask in a post above?

I don't think you understand what you are saying when you said

"I use it all the time for work. I need to be able to use SSH, wireless tethering and a browser all at the same time."

Certain apps on the iPhone will run in the background regardless. SSH is always on, the browser is as well once you start it and exit it, its still running in the background. And once you've tethered the phone, its tethered.

Granted you need to JB to get the tethering and SSH, but you don't need a mulitask app like backgrounder to do what you just said.

 

[HumblePie]

Who cares if they fall or not? It's not like they make one iota of difference in my daily life. I only one a G4 mac because I got it for free. My parents on a macbook air and I know how mac works and how to use them though I rarely do. If they went away I wouldn't shed a tear and if they didn't I wouldn't care either unless they finally come up with a product that might actually excite me for once.

By the way. I own a touch pro 2 not an iphone, and I don't have an ipod or any portable mp3 player at the moment.

 

[preslove]

Apple would have started a dying had Steve Jobs not been able to buy a new liver.


Once he does kick the bucket, Apple is toast. Not before.

 

[CraigRT]

I hope so.. The people that harbor their products certainly are annoying.

 

[slackerinabox]

Apple would have started a dying had Steve Jobs not been able to buy a new liver.


Once he does kick the bucket, Apple is toast. Not before.

You know, his absence lead to the really wacky current generation iPod shuffle... He did lots of great things for the company, but I think they're making the big mistake of dictating what the consumers want instead of listening. Eric Schmidt said something that I'm paraphrasing - "If there's a demand for a change then we'll adapt to it, rigid conformity to our current model doesn't really serve anyone." Vs. getting into fights with Adobe and then telling customers what they want and need... Then reversing their hard lined stance when embarrassed (but often after way too long). Copy and paste.. Multitasking.. Flash.. Why wait for multiple generations to give customers what they need, while claiming that they just don't really need feature X. It's odd to see a company operate like that.

 

[zinfamous]

Do you know how dalvik works? It's an incredible piece of technology that you should probably read up on before saying LOL JAVA IS SLOW.

What hardware wise is nicer in the iPhone, specifically, compared to the Incredible or say Motorola Droid? It's certainly not the processor(same in droid as iphone, snapdragon in HTC), radio(far far better in the motorola) or storage, which you can't remove from the iPhone or expand. You can't replace or have a second battery on the iPhone. You cant run more than one app yet.. and if anything, who is copying who by finally implementing that? Better apps, I'll give you that, Apple had a huge head start.

If you like the UI, that's totally fine, but to say stuff like 'nothing comes close' is just retarded and screams fanboism. I've owned both devices for a while and while the iPhone is a nice piece of technology, it has been surpassed technically. It's not the end/all be/all device that people claim it is.

If you don't like the interface, look harder, there are tons out there and the ability to have a choice is great.

I think the capacitive touchscreen is the only area where the iPhone beats other competing smartphones. The responsiveness and speed is still unmatched, as far as I know (not sure if the latest HTC, or even the new Samsung OLED models have finally matched it.)

everything else seems to show that Apple is lagging when it comes to hardware.

 

[OverVolt]

Plus, i've sunk xxx$ into Apple store APP's, which work really well.

I have no qualms with another company being top dog in the smartphone arena, that's just the way tech goes though (AMD used to dominate CPU arena, then INTEL took over). Hopefully I can get a few more years out of the iphone, before something really blows it out of the water.

It's kind of like WoW...what game is going to be the WoW killer? .. IMO it's going to be a Blizzard game, either their next IP (unannounced), or D3.

It'll die a slow painful death as they milk every last penny out of it. Guess apple will do the same.

 

[zinfamous]

Once he does kick the bucket, Apple is toast. Not before.

ah, so in 1 to 1.5 years, eh?

and I'm totally serious.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Here's why Apple isn't going to die any time soon, in fact they're going to continue doing quite well.

1.) The Smartphone market is massive and getting larger.
2.) Apple generates most of it's income from overseas sales now, everyone looks at domestic figures (OMFG 25 different models of phones with Android-combined outsold the iPhone!!111!!!)
3.) There's always going to be a market for "upscale" products.
4.) The iPad... Apple says 1 million sold, fact is it's more like 2 million, and that's domestic sales only, international sales haven't even started yet.

 

[Fritzo]

I hope it spells the end so gays can go back to focusing on interior decorating and making hair look good.

 

[middlehead]

Decline in prominence, maybe. Fall, no.

 

[CKent]

no, there's too many non-technical people that need to feel smug about something

Bigtime. If you read non-tech forums the ignorance and smuggery are astounding. Here on AT we hear *about* these people, elsewhere we hear *from* them, and it's nauseating.

 

[gorcorps]

They could completely fail and pull out of the phone market (which they won't) and still be completely fine. All their money came from mp3 players and that won't change.

 

[ArizonaSteve]

Apple = Bose = Monster Cable

 

[Modular]

no, there's too many non-technical people that need to feel smug about something

LoL. Awesome

 

[looseratlife]

Learn how to spell "loser" dipshit.

Nice screen name.

My intention was to make You pronounce it like that ..