Is the current tea party anything like the original tea party?

[JohnOfSheffield]

Please explain how wanting the government to get control of spending is discrimination?

If it would have had anything to do with that fictious idea of that being the cause of the teabaggers (yes, they earned that name so much they even call themselves that) then all would be well.

Of course, these are retarded people, for some reason or another let out from their asylum to proclaim that Obama is a Socialist, a communist, hitler, not american, wahtever you'd want.

I have even seen a US sign that said "no more Socialist Obama, bring back Winston Churchill" whick is a bit more than an extreme amount of ironic considering that Winston Churchill was a British PM (i don't know who i need to tell this to but obviously tea partiers everywhere) and the US original tea party consisted of the French freeing the US of British rule.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If the modern Tea Party existed back during the American Revolutionary War, would they be for or against incurring debt or raising taxes to fight the Brits?

They would have shut up until Sarah was born and told them what to think.

 

[cwjerome]

That is utter bullsheit, one was fighting for freedom, the one that exists today is fighting for the right to discriminate against others.

How you can even compare them is beyond me.

Have you not seen enough of enforcement of religious morality, come the fuck on officer, if you haven't i'll be glad to invite you if you state your name and rank, i'll make sure you help the locals pick up their innards so they can be buried whole.

I can compare them because their essence is similar: A "far off" government dictating, micromanaging, and governing against the interests of the people and for the interests of a few. In both cases, it was about accountability.

To be committed to the US Constitution means appreciating the marketplace of ideas concerning self government.

That does not mean I love the Tea Party. They are not as reasoned and constructive as I would like, and the religious component of many Tea Party people is threatening to American values. Politicians have borrowed our power, not God's... Article 6 of the Constitution makes it clear whose allegiance our representatives are sworn to. Anyone seeking office with a overtly religious agenda is so inimical to what the US stands for... and anyone who would replace civic discourse with religious discourse needs to be challenged.

But opponents of the Tea Party are weakened by their own lack of vision because they don't understand other points of view. They are the flip side of the same coin.

 

[Zebo]

It's called the Tea Party because it's a vaguely associated term that people in the US generally have a positive view of. Similar to how vigilante border guards call themselves "Minutemen".

However, I have seen very little evidence that Tea Party supporters actually care about the size or power or cost of government in the sort of generalized way you imply. Instead, they seem mostly against government spending on social programs. I notice a conspicuous silence on other important issues relating to the scope of government and government spending, which makes me wonder how much they REALLY want to reduce the size of government, and how much they just don't like social spending.

In other words, they're just another special interest group with better than average marketing...

Have you looked? At least 7 points in their 10 point 'contract' address spending, size and scope of Govt. I posted it earlier but here is a link
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tea-party-activists-unveil-contract-america/story?id=10376437&page=1

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I can compare them because their essence is similar: A "far off" government dictating, micromanaging, and governing against the interests of the people and for the interests of a few. In both cases, it was about accountability.

To be committed to the US Constitution means appreciating the marketplace of ideas concerning self government.

That does not mean I love the Tea Party. They are not as reasoned and constructive as I would like, and the religious component of many Tea Party people is threatening to American values. Politicians have borrowed our power, not God's... Article 6 of the Constitution makes it clear whose allegiance our representatives are sworn to. Anyone seeking office with a overtly religious agenda is so inimical to what the US stands for... and anyone who would replace civic discourse with religious discourse needs to be challenged.

But opponents of the Tea Party are weakened by their own lack of vision because they don't understand other points of view. They are the flip side of the same coin.

So you are saying that Tea Party members (trying to be respectful, don't think it'll last, it won't) don't care about things as racial affairs, small economic sanctions either way, gay marriage or anything like that?

Considering the situations (and consider the time and economics along with the evolved society we already live in) i'd say that the Taliban are to the SE Kabul residents as the teabaggers are to regular americans.

Oh and yeah, i don't know if you've been there since then but there is that area in Kabul. yippie or something... i'm just tired.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I have even seen a US sign that said "no more Socialist Obama, bring back Winston Churchill" whick is a bit more than an extreme amount of ironic considering that Winston Churchill was a British PM (i don't know who i need to tell this to but obviously tea partiers everywhere) and the US original tea party consisted of the French freeing the US of British rule.

That would be horrendous. Winston Churchill was a genocidal monster and one of the biggest racists in history. Did you see that sign in the south?

 

[woolfe9999]

The fashionable Lib thing to do regarding the tea party is to bash them, ridicule them, destroy them them and basically engage in the type of political discourse that's creating much of the problems we have today... it's all about petty tearing down and making the other side hurt. That goes for both sides.

The tea partiers are off calling Obama Hitler, and saying he's a communist. And you're criticizing LIBS for "bashing" the tea party in a non-constructive way. Uh huh.

- wolf

 

[cwjerome]

The tea partiers are off calling Obama Hitler, and saying he's a communist. And you're criticizing LIBS for "bashing" the tea party in a non-constructive way. Uh huh.

- wolf

"That goes for both sides."

"They are the flip side of the same coin."

Around we go...

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

That would be horrendous. Winston Churchill was a genocidal monster and one of the biggest racists in history. Did you see that sign in the south?

Absolutely, just like Theodore Roosevelt he reacted to the situation he was thrown into and with the unmitigating will or countless men who saved your sorry arse, they not only won the war but each saved their respective nation in the process.

Naturally we should be ashamed of them.

Sieg HEIL!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Roosevelt was pretty bad with civil rights, but he's got nothing on that genocidal thug Churchill.

Maybe Churchill saved his nation, but he continued to murder other nations. Genocidal thug.

Again, did you see that sign in the South?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Roosevelt was pretty bad with civil rights, but he's got nothing on that genocidal thug Churchill.

Maybe Churchill saved his nation, but he continued to murder other nations. Genocidal thug.

Again, did you see that sign in the South?

HEIL, siegt es!

HEIL! SIEGT ES.

Don't forget that the Indians were pushing for Nazism up ontil the mid 70's along with Pakistan, Jordania, Egypt and Syria.

But nah, that Winston, he was horrible, saviour of the free world, the REAL saviour, not the pathetic twat Roosevelt who one week before involvement stated "we will not get involved in Europes war" then your coward arses got bombed and deeclared are upon and you really couldn't hide behind Britain anymore.

Winston Churchill was an arsehole in other ways but he was DEFINENTLY the leader of the allied forces, without ANY doubt.

That might explain why tea partiers want him back?

 

[RabidMongoose]

The UK is pushing Nazism, genocide, and a caste system of bloodlines to this very day.

Winston Churchill was evil, plain and simple. He was an evil genocidal maniac. I don't care what excuses you use to try to dehumanize people (such as Indians, Pakistanis, Egyptians, etc.) to justify Churchill's many genocides.

Churchill was a pathetic man. He was weak, couldn't even handle his own war with his own people, and then continued his genocidal policies.

F brown people though - am I right?

Anyways, I bet you found that sign in the South. It was probably a reaction of Obama returning that stupid bust of Churchill back to the British, which resulted in the British people freaking out over the 'special relationship.' Hahaha.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The UK is pushing Nazism, genocide, and a caste system of bloodlines to this very day.

Winston Churchill was evil, plain and simple. He was an evil genocidal maniac. I don't care what excuses you use to try to dehumanize people (such as Indians, Pakistanis, Egyptians, etc.) to justify Churchill's many genocides.

Churchill was a pathetic man. He was weak, couldn't even handle his own war with his own people, and then continued his genocidal policies.

F brown people though - am I right?

Anyways, I bet you found that sign in the South. It was probably a reaction of Obama returning that stupid bust of Churchill back to the British, which resulted in the British people freaking out over the 'special relationship.' Hahaha.

If you want to make up your own version of history, be my guest, but the LEADER of the allied forces was without any doubt Winston Churchill.

You remind me of a whole heap of his sayings, but since you are too daft to understand a simple point, it would be wasted on you to repeat any one of them.

Besides, it's the middle of the night here and i'm heading out soon and should leave to prepare for that, a G3 doesn't check itself you know.

Anyway, you poor Indian sod, have a happy time opressing your wife.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I'm not even talking about LEADERS or whatever, just that Winston Churchill was a despicable man. Unfortunately, it seems that the queen's subjects continue his bigotry and hate.

Plus, I'm not even Indian, you moron. Again, you display your hatred of brown people. It's simply unimaginable to you that a non-brown person realizes that Winston Churchill was a disgusting and vile human being.

Again, I bet that you saw that sign in the South. Since you haven't even denied it yet, it's obvious that's where you saw it. It all makes sense now!

 

[rudder]

If it would have had anything to do with that fictious idea of that being the cause of the teabaggers (yes, they earned that name so much they even call themselves that) then all would be well.

Of course, these are retarded people, for some reason or another let out from their asylum to proclaim that Obama is a Socialist, a communist, hitler, not american, wahtever you'd want.

I have even seen a US sign that said "no more Socialist Obama, bring back Winston Churchill" whick is a bit more than an extreme amount of ironic considering that Winston Churchill was a British PM (i don't know who i need to tell this to but obviously tea partiers everywhere) and the US original tea party consisted of the French freeing the US of British rule.

So by your logic... all muslims are ignorant violent people that hate orange juice. Look here is a picture of them:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sanspareille/3153871928/

When you form opinions from hand picked photos and from biased news sites, I suppose you can form some rather awkward opinions of people. I have limited experience with the tea party. There have been several rallies near my work place where i have wandered over to see what they were about. Obama being a socialist was not discussed nor was obama birthplace. The people were upset with what will prove to be a dangerous move into uncharted debt territory.